{"id":535,"date":"2008-09-09T22:43:00","date_gmt":"2008-09-09T21:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-a-concealed-elbow.html"},"modified":"2015-01-15T22:53:00","modified_gmt":"2015-01-15T21:53:00","slug":"just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html","title":{"rendered":"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson,<a href=\"http:\/\/nds.coi.gov.uk\/environment\/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=314953&amp;NewsAreaID=2&amp;NavigatedFromDepartment=False\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> introduced a new policy<\/a> in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be bare below the elbow. This was for hygiene regions \u2013 it was a response to public anxiety over the multi-antibiotic resistant \u2018superbugs\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Now, this posed a problem for some orthodox Muslim women, who believe that their god wants them to keep their elbows and forearms covered. So there have been rumblings of discontent, culminating in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/politics\/health\/2662473\/Muslim-radiographer-loses-job-after-refusing-to-bare-her-arms.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">dismissal earlier this month<\/a> of a radiographer from Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading.<\/p>\n<p>What would probably surprise readers of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-519072\/Muslim-medics-refuse-roll-sleeves-hygiene-crackdown--religion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Daily Mail<\/a> (and the <a href=\"http:\/\/atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com\/atlas_shrugs\/2008\/02\/ugh-female-musl.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">armies of xenophobes in the blogosphere<\/a>) is that the evidence that bare forearms reduces disease transmission is actually quite weak. In the September issue of the <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">British Journal of Urology International<\/span>, by Dr Adam Jones (a urologist at the Royal Berkshire Hospital), lays out the history of changing attitudes to surgeon clothing and infection.<\/p>\n<p>One thing is not in dispute: poor clothing and hygiene standards leads to increased infection. But what about sleeves in particular? The honest answer is that we just don\u2019t know. Dr Jones says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The evidence for the roles of ties, shirt cuffs, rings or watches in infection is hard to find and mostly in obscure medical journals. Indeed similar levels of bacterial contamination have been reported on doctors\u2019 stethoscopes and pens.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So where does this leave the debate? Eugene Volokh, over at the <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Volokh Conspiracy<\/span>, has an <a href=\"http:\/\/volokh.com\/posts\/1202241515.shtml\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">refreshing perspective<\/a>. He points out that one of the most powerful weapons against wacky religions like fundamentalist Islam is the empowerment of women. The very fact that these women are becoming doctors, and so gaining power and influence and control over their lives, will undermine the fundamentalism that causes them to insist on hiding behind layers of clothing.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, tolerating this particular cultural peculiarity may be the best way to allow it to atrophy.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"padding: 5px; float: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 0pt none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" alt=\"ResearchBlogging.org\"><\/a><\/span><span class=\"Z3988\" title=\"ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=BJU+International&amp;rft.id=info:DOI\/10.1111%2Fj.1464-410X.2008.07713.x&amp;rft.atitle=Bare+below+the+elbows%3A+A+brief+history+of+surgeon+attire+and+infection&amp;rft.date=2008&amp;rft.volume=102&amp;rft.issue=6&amp;rft.spage=665&amp;rft.epage=666&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fblackwell-synergy.com%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1111%2Fj.1464-410X.2008.07713.x&amp;rft.au=Adam+Jones&amp;bpr3.included=1&amp;bpr3.tags=Health%2CReligion%2C+Public+Health\">Adam Jones (2008). Bare below the elbows: a brief history of surgeon attire and infection. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">BJU International, 102<\/span> (6), 665-666 DOI: <a href=\"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1111\/j.1464-410X.2008.07713.x\" rev=\"review\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">10.1111\/j.1464-410X.2008.07713.x<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be bare below the elbow. This was for hygiene regions \u2013 it was a response to public anxiety over the multi-antibiotic resistant \u2018superbugs\u2019. Now, this posed a problem for some [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2091,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-535","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2008-09-09T21:43:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2015-01-15T21:53:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html\",\"name\":\"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2008-09-09T21:43:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2015-01-15T21:53:00+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1\"},\"description\":\"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\",\"name\":\"Epiphenom\",\"description\":\"The science of religion and non-belief\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1\",\"name\":\"Epiphenom\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Epiphenom\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/author\/trees\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?","description":"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?","og_description":"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html","og_site_name":"Epiphenom","article_published_time":"2008-09-09T21:43:00+00:00","article_modified_time":"2015-01-15T21:53:00+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png"}],"author":"Epiphenom","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Epiphenom","Est. reading time":"2 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html","name":"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website"},"datePublished":"2008-09-09T21:43:00+00:00","dateModified":"2015-01-15T21:53:00+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1"},"description":"About a year ago the Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, introduced a new policy in UK hospitals requiring doctors and nurses working on hospital wards to be","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2008\/09\/just-how-dangerous-is-naked-elbow.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Just how dangerous is a concealed elbow?"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/","name":"Epiphenom","description":"The science of religion and non-belief","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1","name":"Epiphenom","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Epiphenom"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/author\/trees"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/535","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2091"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=535"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/535\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=535"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=535"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=535"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}