{"id":648,"date":"2007-10-15T21:26:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-15T20:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2007\/10\/are-the-religious-more-caring-or-do-they-just-think-they-are.html"},"modified":"2014-11-14T05:59:48","modified_gmt":"2014-11-14T04:59:48","slug":"are-religious-more-caring-or-do-they","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2007\/10\/are-religious-more-caring-or-do-they.html","title":{"rendered":"Are the religious more caring &#8211; or do they just think they are?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>So a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reginaldbibby.com\/images\/PC_10_BETTER_WITH_GOD_OCT0807.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">new survey of Canadians<\/a> has revealed that those who describe themselves as believers are also more likely to say that they view traits such as kindness and friendship as \u201cvery important\u201d. As the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/nationalpost\/news\/story.html?id=3e458112-a9b6-4ec9-9a53-32bff67efdd0&amp;k=0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Canada Post<\/a> reports it, you can take it as read that this means that believers are actually kinder, friendlier, etc.<\/p>\n<p>But the truth is much more interesting.<br><span id=\"fullpost\"><br>This new poll is one in a long line of research which shows that believers regularly report not only that they value these traits, but that they believe they <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">actually <\/span>live up to them. Now, there could be several reasons for this. Perhaps, religion really does instill moral values. Or maybe there\u2019s some self-selection going on, and so religion tends to attract the nice folk, and all the selfish, mean-spirited folk drift off to become atheists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Well maybe.<\/p>\n<p>But in fact when you test religious and non-religious in carefully designed psychological tests, the differences evaporate. Something similar happens with church attendance: Christians in the US, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/www.stat.columbia.edu\/~gelman\/stuff_for_blog\/church0.pdfsig2=co_uj2BuXcQdafmwa77BXA\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">for example<\/a>, report going to church about twice as often as they actually do. So what\u2019s going on here? As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uclouvain.be\/en-saroglou.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Vassilis Saroglou<\/a>, associate professor of psychology of religion at the Universit\u00e9 catholique de Louvain, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uclouvain.be\/cps\/ucl\/doc\/psyreli\/documents\/Newsletter.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">puts it<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span id=\"fullpost\">\u201cThe contrast between the ideals and self-perceptions of religious people and the results of studies using other research strategies is so striking that researchers may be tempted to suspect moral hypocrisy in religious people.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Saroglou has found that there is a small effect of religion on prosociality, but only towards close siblings and friends. In other words, religion appears to enhance the tribal bond \u2013 no surprises there! But Saroglou\u2019s work is, as he puts it, still derived from \u201cpaper-and-pencil measures and can consequently only provide indirect evidence of the prosocial behavior of religious people in real life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Recent research by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.psych.ubc.ca\/~ara\/index.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ara Norenzayan<\/a>, Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of British Columbia, goes further by using a hard test of prosociality \u2013 an economic game with real money payouts (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.psych.ubc.ca\/~ara\/Manuscripts\/Shariff_Norenzayan.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Shariff &amp; Norenzayan 2007<\/a>). As expected, religious people claimed to be more prosocial than the non-religious, but weren\u2019t in reality. But when subliminally primed with religious concepts, <b>both<\/b> the religious and non-religious were more prosocial. And the <b>same thing<\/b> happened when they were primed with secular concepts.<\/p>\n<p>So there you have it. Religion increases bonding within the tribe, but not outside of it. And it\u2019s not inherent \u2013 it depends on priming. And the priming works with secular concepts just as well as it does with religious ones. But the apparent prosocial effects of religion are mostly the result of self delusion, with believers describing themselves as they would like to be, rather than as they actually are. So maybe secular nations are every bit as caring and sharing as the religious ones, and maybe the loss of religion won\u2019t really cause a descent into chaos.<\/p>\n<p>But in fact, we knew that already \u2013 Denmark, with one of the lowest levels of religious belief in the world, is also the one with the highest levels of happiness and greatest equality. So don\u2019t believe the hype!<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/study-atheists-rate-lower-than.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Atheist Jew<\/a> for reporting this survey.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So a new survey of Canadians has revealed that those who describe themselves as believers are also more likely to say that they view traits such as kindness and friendship as \u201cvery important\u201d. 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