{"id":5354,"date":"2013-11-16T13:17:25","date_gmt":"2013-11-16T17:17:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/?p=5354"},"modified":"2013-11-16T13:17:25","modified_gmt":"2013-11-16T17:17:25","slug":"djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/","title":{"rendered":"DJG Edition Comparison: &#8220;Historical Jesus, Quest of&#8221; (1st Ed) -vs- &#8220;Quest of the Historical Jesus&#8221; (2nd Ed)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/34\/2013\/11\/DJG.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-5279\" title=\"DJG\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/34\/2013\/11\/DJG-208x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\"><\/a>When I sketched the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/dictionary-of-jesus-the-gospels-2nd-ed\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">original post<\/a><\/strong> announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dictionary-Jesus-Gospels-IVP-Bible\/dp\/0830824561\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1384621243&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=dictionary+of+Jesus+and+the+gospels\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><em>Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels<\/em><\/strong><\/a>, I thought I would begin the comparison with Matthew. However, I found my interest drew me first to the article on the \u201cQuest of the Historical Jesus\u201d. I\u2019ve used the article to good effect in my own study as well as in classes. So it is one I knew fairly well. This article is an interesting case study in the difference between the two editions because it was authored by the same person, Collin Brown. \u00a0As some readers may have noticed in the comment from Richard Bauckham to the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/more-on-the-djg-2nd-ed\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a><\/strong> on the DJG, Richard noted that while he was an original contributor, he was not asked to write the article for the same topic in the 2nd edition (\u201cGospels [Apocryphal]\u201d in the 1st ed, \u201cChristology\u201d in the 2nd).<\/p>\n<p>I still intend to write a post on the \u201cMatthew\u201d article as it will illustrate, on the other hand, the difference between the two editions by looking at an article written by different scholars in the 1st and 2nd editions.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Historical Jesus, Quest of -vs- Quest of the Historical Jesus<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I begin with some data:<\/p>\n<p>1. Title<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1<sup>st<\/sup> edition: \u201cHistorical Jesus, Quest of\u201d<\/li>\n<li>2<sup>nd<\/sup> edition: \u201cQuest of the Historical Jesus\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>2. Length<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1<sup>st<\/sup> edition: Covered 32 columns of text over 15 pages (326-41)<\/li>\n<li>2<sup>nd<\/sup> edition: Covered 78 columns over 38 pages (718-56)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>3. Author: Both written by Collin Brown<\/p>\n<p>4. Table of contents<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1<sup>st<\/sup> edition<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ol>\n<li>The Original Quest (1778-1906)<\/li>\n<li>From the History of Religions School to the New Quest<\/li>\n<li>The Third Quest<\/li>\n<li>Conclusion<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<ul>\n<li>2<sup>nd<\/sup> Edition<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ol>\n<li>The Quest for the Theological Jesus<\/li>\n<li>Quests Before the Quest<\/li>\n<li>Schweitzer\u2019s Quest in Context<\/li>\n<li>From Harnack to Grundmann<\/li>\n<li>From Bousset to Bultmann and the \u201cNew Quest\u201d<\/li>\n<li>European Alternatives<\/li>\n<li>The English-Speaking World<\/li>\n<li>The Ongoing Quest<\/li>\n<li>Concluding Reflections<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>5. Bibliography<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1<sup>st<\/sup> edition: one column 6 inches<\/li>\n<li>2<sup>nd<\/sup> edition 9 columns 70 inches<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>From just a survey of these data one can see that the article in the second edition of the DJG is a completely <em>new<\/em>\u00a0and much expanded article. While no doubt including much of the material in the first it has been reshaped and presented along with a significant amount of additional material. There is also a different perspective offered in the second edition, more skeptical of the labels used to describe the Quests and more focus on the theological element (the addition of the section \u201cThe Quest for the Theological Jesus\u201d). One sees this at the very first, where Brown begins with a skepticism about the labels given to the Quests. He attributes this more to the \u201centerprising spirit of British publishers\u201d. Such skepticism was absent in the first edition\u2019s article.<\/p>\n<p>This is surely one of the most thorough, if not the most thorough, surveys of the history of the quest for the historical Jesus written in a brief pamphlet-like size. I challenge anyone to find something that tops it for its concision and completeness. Not only is it analytically and critically rich (note the criticism of Tom Wright\u2019s <em>Jesus and the Victory of God<\/em>), but it discusses most all the key figures in the history of research. Looking at the bibliography it appears there are plans to turn the article into a separate book published by IVP called <em>The Quests of the Historical Jesus: A Brief History<\/em>. I will look forward to this book which will be an excellent companion in a course on Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>While Brown couldn\u2019t cover every one who has written on the subject of the historical Jesus\u2014surprisingly there\u2019s no mention of my monumental article \u201cPresuppositions and Procedures in the Study of the \u2018Historical Jesus\u2019 Or Why I\u2019m not a Historical Jesus Scholar?\u201d (<em>JSHJ<\/em> 3.1 (2005): 61-108)\u2014I am surprised the work of the late Sean Freyne has no place in his survey (<em>The Twelve: Disciples and Apostles: A Study in the Theology of the First Three Gospels.<\/em> London &amp; Sydney: Sheed &amp; Ward, 1968; <em>Galilee from Alexander the Great to Hadrian, 323 B.C.E. to 135 C.E.: A study of Second Temple Judaism.<\/em> Edinburgh: T &amp; T Clark, 1980; <em>Galilee, Jesus, and the Gospels: Literary Approaches and Historical Investigations.<\/em> Dublin: Gill and Macmillan, 1988; <em>Galilee and Gospel: Collected Essays.<\/em> Vol. 125, WUNT. T\u00fcbingen: Mohr Siebeck, 2000; \u201cThe Geography of Restoration: Galilee\u2013Jerusalem Relations in Early Jewish Christian Experience.\u201d <em>NTS<\/em> 47 (2001): 289-311; <em>Jesus, A Jewish Galilean: A New Reading of the Jesus-Story.<\/em> London: T &amp; T Clark International, 2004). Freyne\u2019s important contributions should not have been overlooked.<\/p>\n<p>The article on the \u201cQuest of the Historical Jesus\u201d is not simply revision of the first edition. It is a new article. And it exceeds the first edition significantly.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the comparison with Matthew. However, I found my interest drew me first to the article on the \u201cQuest of the Historical Jesus\u201d. I\u2019ve used the article to good effect [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>DJG Edition Comparison: &quot;Historical Jesus, Quest of&quot; (1st Ed) -vs- &quot;Quest of the Historical Jesus&quot; (2nd Ed)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"DJG Edition Comparison: &quot;Historical Jesus, Quest of&quot; (1st Ed) -vs- &quot;Quest of the Historical Jesus&quot; (2nd Ed)\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Euangelion\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/files\/2013\/11\/DJG-208x300.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Joel Willitts\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Joel Willitts\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/\",\"name\":\"DJG Edition Comparison: \\\"Historical Jesus, Quest of\\\" (1st Ed) -vs- \\\"Quest of the Historical Jesus\\\" (2nd Ed)\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/3956161a1102106b89f6e3d2d76e5338\"},\"description\":\"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"DJG Edition Comparison: &#8220;Historical Jesus, Quest of&#8221; (1st Ed) -vs- &#8220;Quest of the Historical Jesus&#8221; (2nd Ed)\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/\",\"name\":\"Euangelion\",\"description\":\"A Post-Post-Modern Blog On Scripture, Faith and Following Jesus\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/3956161a1102106b89f6e3d2d76e5338\",\"name\":\"Joel Willitts\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/981c1015d63ad7b627ceee4b6ec1782d?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/981c1015d63ad7b627ceee4b6ec1782d?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Joel Willitts\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/author\/jwillitts\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"DJG Edition Comparison: \"Historical Jesus, Quest of\" (1st Ed) -vs- \"Quest of the Historical Jesus\" (2nd Ed)","description":"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"DJG Edition Comparison: \"Historical Jesus, Quest of\" (1st Ed) -vs- \"Quest of the Historical Jesus\" (2nd Ed)","og_description":"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/","og_site_name":"Euangelion","article_published_time":"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/files\/2013\/11\/DJG-208x300.jpg"}],"author":"Joel Willitts","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Joel Willitts","Est. reading time":"4 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/","name":"DJG Edition Comparison: \"Historical Jesus, Quest of\" (1st Ed) -vs- \"Quest of the Historical Jesus\" (2nd Ed)","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#website"},"datePublished":"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00","dateModified":"2013-11-16T17:17:25+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/3956161a1102106b89f6e3d2d76e5338"},"description":"When I sketched the original post announcing the release of the 2nd edition of the Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, I thought I would begin the","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2013\/11\/djg-edition-comparison-historical-jesus-quest-of-1st-ed-vs-quest-of-the-historical-jesus-2nd-ed\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"DJG Edition Comparison: &#8220;Historical Jesus, Quest of&#8221; (1st Ed) -vs- &#8220;Quest of the Historical Jesus&#8221; (2nd Ed)"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/","name":"Euangelion","description":"A Post-Post-Modern Blog On Scripture, Faith and Following Jesus","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/3956161a1102106b89f6e3d2d76e5338","name":"Joel Willitts","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/981c1015d63ad7b627ceee4b6ec1782d?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/981c1015d63ad7b627ceee4b6ec1782d?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Joel Willitts"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/author\/jwillitts\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5354","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5354"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5354\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5354"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5354"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5354"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}