{"id":10604,"date":"2016-09-30T19:09:52","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T23:09:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/?p=10604"},"modified":"2016-09-30T19:13:13","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T23:13:13","slug":"a-very-short-post-on-gay-and-womens-liberation-in-christ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/2016\/09\/a-very-short-post-on-gay-and-womens-liberation-in-christ.html","title":{"rendered":"A Very Short Post on Gay and Women&#8217;s Liberation in Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In one of the three post-concussion Gay Catholic Whatnot interviews I\u2019ve done so far, my interlocutor asked me, \u201cSo what do you think about\u2026 <em>pride<\/em>?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Me, probably getting a little bit too much Jeeves in the face: \u201cPride, the mortal sin? Or Pride, the thing where they throw beads?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But no, it\u2019s in fact a great question, because it implies an underlying question of what a <em>Christian<\/em> model of gay (and I think also <a href=\"https:\/\/cruxnow.com\/global-church\/2016\/09\/22\/cameroon-catholic-movement-fueled-womens-lib\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">women\u2019s<\/a>) lib would look like. Pride, the thing where they throw beads, is something I have deeply mixed opinions about. I don\u2019t think the word choice is really a coincidence. Pride is envisioned as the opposite of shame\u2013but is it the only opposite? Pride, and urban Pride parades in particular, often combine community solidarity (yes, this I love and need) with celebration of gay entrance into the halls of <em>power<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Pride with its Absolut ads and political candidates offers a vision of gay normalcy and gay empowerment, and I don\u2019t think those are frameworks for Christian communal action. I do basically think our churches should be there, in a spirit of welcome and reconciliation. I think orthodox Christians should be at Pride to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vox.com\/2016\/7\/1\/12070954\/pope-francis-lgbt-apology\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">apologize<\/a> for the harms our churches have done LGBT people. We should be there as an invitation to return to your heart\u2019s home, in Christ\u2013an invitation to ask whether you can deepen your relationship with the God Who loves you. We should be there to hold out the possibility that you can be open about your sexual orientation <em>and<\/em> orthodox in your sexual discipline. And we should be there because, you know, we also are part of the lgbt\/queer community. Queerer than most! Some would say, unnecessarily queer, but I say, still not queer enough!<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, my dull point is that Christians should be at Pride but maybe we can also offer a framework for political action and community formation that goes beyond Pride. What if our goal as a community were not empowerment but peacemaking? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/article\/2009\/03\/church-ladies\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Not increased choice, but honored surrender<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>What if we genuinely offered humility as an opponent of and medicine for shame?<\/p>\n<p>(Side note: I\u2019ve read various attempts to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/ct\/2016\/september-web-only\/were-so-unashamed-we-wrote-book-on-it-three-of-them-actuall.html?start=1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">rescue the concept of shame<\/a> and I remain super unpersuaded\u2013<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/middlemarch-and-what-we-mean-when-we-say-shame-works\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">this<\/a> is still my position\u2013but if you disagree with me on that, groovy, just accept for now that \u201cshame\u201d here means something like, \u201cthe belief that one is unusually or even uniquely degraded and worthless, set apart from human community and especially from membership in the Body of Christ\u2013that your unworthiness <em>is not shared<\/em> by the whole church, but isolates you from it.\u201d Shame is the thing that makes you terrified of being fully known by yourself, God, and your loved ones.)<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t have answers to these questions. I\u2019ve asked them in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crisismagazine.com\/2009\/romoeroticism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">less-pointed<\/a> forms before but I think the framing in this post does some interesting stuff to challenge both our churches and lgbt communities. I guess I will close by asking if any of you all have participated in lgbt\/feminist movement work that did strike you as peacemaking rather than striving for empowerment. What does that look like on the ground? How would you assess it now?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In one of the three post-concussion Gay Catholic Whatnot interviews I\u2019ve done so far, my interlocutor asked me, \u201cSo what do you think about\u2026 pride?\u201d Me, probably getting a little bit too much Jeeves in the face: \u201cPride, the mortal sin? 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