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IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, BABY<\/span>: Some scattered notes on that Christopher Roberts talk<\/a> (I\u2019ve ordered his book, as well).<\/p>\n

* CR argues that Augustine speaks, against several other early Christian theologians, for the body and for sex difference as a feature of our life in Eden, not a precursor or foreshadowing of the Fall. For him, to have a sexed body is to have a vocation.<\/p>\n

* CR: Progressive theology of marriage separates creation and redemption\u2013for progressive, pro-gay-marriage theologians, sex difference is about creation\/procreation and is private, while redemption (linked to marriage?) is ecclesial but unisex.<\/p>\n

* Some good if glancing cultural criticism, calling for a switch from a dating model of young adulthood to a discernment model.<\/p>\n

* One questioner deploys transgender people as wedges to get gay marriage for cis people. I disapprove of that as a rhetorical strategy [eta: because it uses<\/span> other people to get what you want, rather than attempting to serve or understand them]. It also tends to obscure the actual theological questions<\/a> involved in transgender experience. (More<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

* CR gives really interesting pushback on JPII\u2019s \u201cgenius of women\u201d stuff and whether there are inherent characteristics of gender i.e. boys don\u2019t cry, girls are nurturing.<\/p>\n

* From my perspective, his least-satisfying answer to audience questions is the one about gay adoption, where he chooses trivializing language, so just be aware of that going in.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"