{"id":9139,"date":"2014-12-13T21:36:34","date_gmt":"2014-12-14T01:36:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/?p=9139"},"modified":"2014-12-13T21:36:34","modified_gmt":"2014-12-14T01:36:34","slug":"does-working-class-marriage-need-more-progressivism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/2014\/12\/does-working-class-marriage-need-more-progressivism.html","title":{"rendered":"Does Working-Class Marriage Need More Progressivism?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Ross Douthat lays out the question:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"408\" data-total-count=\"1589\">Many optimistic liberals believe not only that such imitation is possible, but that what needs to be imitated most are the <a title=\"Think Progress\" href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/culture\/2014\/12\/03\/3598747\/feminism-cohabitation-how-marriage-got-its-groove-back\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">most socially progressive elements<\/a> of the new upper class\u2019s way of life: delayed marriage preceded by romantic experimentation, more-interchangeable roles for men and women in <a title=\"Boston Globe\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/business\/2013\/05\/26\/women-graduates-elite-colleges-more-likely-opt-out-workforce\/wQAmXRV9WMWtFKph26ORBM\/story.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">breadwinning and child rearing<\/a>, a more emotionally open and egalitarian approach to marriage and parenting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"466\" data-total-count=\"2055\">The core idea here is that working-class men, in particular, need to let go of a particular image of masculinity \u2014 the silent, disciplined provider, the churchgoing paterfamilias \u2014 that no longer suits the times. Instead, they need to become more comfortable as part-time homemakers, as emotionally available soul mates, and they need to raise their children to be more adaptive and expressive, to prepare them for a knowledge-based, constantly-in-flux economy.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>and centers in on what I think is the most important counterargument:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p id=\"story-continues-5\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"267\" data-total-count=\"3930\">Meanwhile, as cohabitation and churchgoing trends suggest, many working-class Americans \u2014 men very much included \u2014 have gone further in embracing progressive models of identity and behavior than many realize, and reaped relatively little reward for that embrace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"489\" data-total-count=\"4419\">Near the end of \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.russellsage.org\/publications\/labors-love-lost\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Labor\u2019s Love Lost<\/a>,\u201d his illuminating new book on the decline of the working-class family, the Johns Hopkins sociologist Andrew Cherlin cites research suggesting that many working-class men, far from being trapped in an antique paradigm of \u201crestricted emotional language,\u201d have actually thrown themselves into therapeutic, \u201cspiritual but not religious\u201d questing, substituting Oprah-esque self-help for more traditional forms of self-conceiving and belonging.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/12\/14\/opinion\/sunday\/ross-douthat-the-imitation-of-marriage.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>. Based on what I see at the pregnancy center, and what I\u2019ve read in books like <a href=\"http:\/\/acculturated.com\/when-a-child-is-a-second-chance\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Doing the Best I Can<\/em><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/broke-and-alone-coming-up-short\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Coming Up Short<\/em><\/a>, working-class and poor Americans have almost exactly the same beliefs about marriage and selfhood as upper-class ones.<\/p>\n<p>All across the class spectrum people think you shouldn\u2019t marry \u201ctoo young.\u201d They believe that you <em>should<\/em> have premarital sex and cohabit before marriage\u2013that doing otherwise is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/hedonist-disciple-or-bourgeois\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">irresponsible<\/a> and puts you at high risk of divorce. All across the class spectrum people believe that marriage is the capstone, the reward for checking off all the other life-accomplishment boxes, something you\u2019re not allowed to do until you\u2019re financially and personally stable. All across the spectrum people believe that marriage is the reward you get at the end of the quest for selfhood.<\/p>\n<p>Edin &amp; Nelson note that poor men have already shifted to a model of fatherhood which is less about being a \u201cprovider\u201d and more about being emotionally open and nurturing. Silva adds that working-class young adults already accept a psychotherapeutic model of the self.<\/p>\n<p>The big differences are a) that poorer people tend to be much more willing to have children out of wedlock, in large part because marriage is a far-off if not impossible goal whereas babies are wonderful, attainable, and <a href=\"http:\/\/toldorknown.com\/post\/231022160\/everybody-was-a-baby-once-arthur-oh-sure-maybe\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">leathery footballs of hope<\/a>, and b) poorer people generally think marriage makes the relationship <em>more<\/em> volatile, at least in the short term. If it ain\u2019t broke don\u2019t fix it\u2013better to stay cohabiting or \u201cit\u2019s complicated\u201d than make a definite move which could upset the equilibrium.<\/p>\n<p>These are all city folk\u2013the people at the center, and the people interviewed by Edin &amp; Nelson and Silva\u2013so I\u2019m guessing there are other cultures out there in this cocktail we call America, but that\u2019s what I see.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ross Douthat lays out the question: Many optimistic liberals believe not only that such imitation is possible, but that what needs to be imitated most are the most socially progressive elements of the new upper class\u2019s way of life: delayed marriage preceded by romantic experimentation, more-interchangeable roles for men and women in breadwinning and child 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