{"id":9901,"date":"2015-07-20T19:02:26","date_gmt":"2015-07-20T23:02:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/?p=9901"},"modified":"2015-07-20T19:02:26","modified_gmt":"2015-07-20T23:02:26","slug":"my-final-post-in-dialogue-wjustin-lee-about-relationships-for-gay-christians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/evetushnet\/2015\/07\/my-final-post-in-dialogue-wjustin-lee-about-relationships-for-gay-christians.html","title":{"rendered":"My Final Post in Dialogue w\/Justin Lee About Relationships for Gay Christians"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>here you go:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in;\">I\u2019ve greatly appreciated Justin\u2019s contributions to this dialogue. I don\u2019t expect this to be \u201cthe final word\u201d\u2014and I\u2019m sorry these posts have been so long!\u2014but let me try to give a bit more of a sense of where I\u2019m coming from. Here are five things.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in;\"><strong>What we long for.<\/strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> I generally write about the paths of love that <\/span><em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">are<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> open to gay or same-sex attracted Catholics. That\u2019s because they are so much more varied and more fruitful than I realized when I became Catholic. I wish people had told me that I would not be barred from intimacy, ecstasy, devoted love, lifelong care, or kinship; that I could find ways of pouring myself out in love for others and becoming a part of their \u201cchosen family.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">But there are obviously pathways that are closed to me. Lesbians can\u2019t be priests, for example. (Is that a joke? I always act like that\u2019s a joke but it\u2019s a toothy one.) I hope it doesn\u2019t come across as disingenuous that I focus on the paths to which God does call gay Catholics and don\u2019t spend as much time detailing the pain we feel because some paths of love are barred to us. I know it\u2019s hard to believe this but I\u2019m actually a really private person. I respect <\/span><\/span><em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">so much<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> the people who have the courage to speak vulnerably about their own struggles with yearning for marriage, sex, or biological children, all of which I will not have unless something very weird happens.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Out of those three I feel the lack of sex most sharply.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.respectfulconversation.net\/hs-conversation\/2015\/7\/19\/eves-last-post-i-dont-think-there-are-monks-in-this-one.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>here you go: I\u2019ve greatly appreciated Justin\u2019s contributions to this dialogue. I don\u2019t expect this to be \u201cthe final word\u201d\u2014and I\u2019m sorry these posts have been so long!\u2014but let me try to give a bit more of a sense of where I\u2019m coming from. Here are five things. What we long for. I generally write [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1071,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,7],"tags":[1264,72,512,30,27,123],"class_list":["post-9901","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-catholic-whatnot","category-mackerel-snapping","tag-gay-catholic-whatnot","tag-in-the-flesh","tag-justin-lee","tag-mackerel-snapping-2","tag-vocation","tag-we-make-an-idol-of-our-fear-and-call-it-choice"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>My Final Post in Dialogue w\/Justin Lee About Relationships for Gay Christians<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"here you go: I&#039;ve greatly appreciated Justin&#039;s contributions to this dialogue. 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