{"id":1810,"date":"2011-01-25T15:18:33","date_gmt":"2011-01-25T21:18:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/mainlineportal\/?p=1810"},"modified":"2011-01-25T15:18:33","modified_gmt":"2011-01-25T21:18:33","slug":"christians-and-guns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/faithforward\/2011\/01\/christians-and-guns\/","title":{"rendered":"Christians and Guns"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"margin: 4px 8px\" src=\"https:\/\/media.patheos.com\/Images\/MLPPT\/MLPPT_GregGarrett_100.jpg\" alt=\"Greg Garrett\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\"><em><\/em><\/p>\n<p>After the shootings in Tucson, the <em>New York Times<\/em> <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/01\/11\/opinion\/11tue1.html?_r=2&amp;ref=opinion\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">called out<\/a> one of the most powerful political lobbyists in the United States, the National Rifle Association. In its editorial, the <em>Times<\/em> argued\u2014in words that some Americans surely found maddening\u2014that the NRA  and its allies \u201chave made the country a far more dangerous place.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Last week <em>TIME<\/em> announced its <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.time.com\/time\/specials\/packages\/0,28757,2041535,00.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">coverage of Tucson<\/a> with the cover caption \u201cGuns. Speech. Madness,\u201d suggesting that, while  all three matter, guns are the first item for discussion.<\/p>\n<p>Some  agree that we need fewer guns; other do not. Two members of Congress  have publicly stated that they will begin carrying guns to public  appearances to protect themselves. Many Christians own guns\u2014that is,  they hunt, shoot targets, or keep a gun for the protection of their  family.<\/p>\n<p>Getting past reflexive condemnation or defensiveness  caused by the outrage in Arizona, can we ask the core questions: How  should people of faith look at guns and gun control?<\/p>\n<p>And how might that shape conversation going forward?<\/p>\n<p>Naturally  there is nothing in the Bible about guns themselves, and there is  little in scripture about rights, as we understand and claim them in  America, including the right to bear arms (although a considerable  amount about responsibilities). In the scriptural record, though, we can  uncover two pertinent themes, both of which require some  interpretation: righteous violence and radical pacifism.<\/p>\n<p>Some  scripture seems to suggest violence is acceptable under some  circumstances; the Hebrew (Old) Testament gives us stories of a God  authorizing violence both to establish and to protect God\u2019s Chosen  People, the Israelites. Then some readers cite verses in the Christian  (New) Testament as supporting war or righteous violence, such as Jesus  proclaiming he has come to bring a sword (Mk. 10:34) or the vision of  John in Revelation 19 that suggests that Jesus will lay waste the  enemies of God with a sword that emerges from his mouth.<\/p>\n<p>Everyone  agrees that the Bible deserves a good literal reading, but it also  deserves more. Some interpretation is nice. The preeminent scholar of  the Hebrew Bible, Walter Brueggemann, has written <em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/rcm.amazon.com\/e\/cm?t=patheoscom04-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=160608089X&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Divine Presence Amid Violence<\/a><\/em> about Joshua, one of those Old Testament books that seems to authorize  violence. Brueggemann points out that, at least in some regards, this  \u201cOld Testament violence\u201d is directed at imperial power\u2014that the  Israelites are empowered to stand against the horses and chariots, the  superior technical prowess of their enemies, because God always opposes a  heavily-armed empire.<\/p>\n<p>Ouch.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, one needn\u2019t do much more than pay attention to the larger  narrative of Jesus\u2019 life to reject as normative those places where his  words (or a writer\u2019s vision of him returning in triumph) suggest that  violence was somehow Jesus\u2019 <em>modus operandi<\/em>. In one of the few  elements of Jesus\u2019 life and work that all four canonical gospels  include, Jesus himself rejected violence\u2014even to preserve his own  life\u2014when an armed mob came to take him to his death.<\/p>\n<p>As for  Revelation and the Last Judgment, I agree with Brian McLaren that the  Jesus of Revelation is not Rambo, that a better reading of Revelations  19 is the one Brian offers at length in <em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/rcm.amazon.com\/e\/cm?t=patheoscom04-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0061853992&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">A New Kind of Christianity<\/a><\/em>: the writer of Revelation foresees a time when the word of God\u2014the Word of God\u2014holds dominion over all the world.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Read the rest of Greg\u2019s article, the first in a three-part series of theological reflections after the Arizona shootings, at Patheos <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/Resources\/Additional-Resources\/Christians-and-Guns-Greg-Garrett-01-20-2011.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Greg Garrett is the author of works of fiction, criticism, and theology, including the forthcoming <\/em>The Other Jesus<em> from  Westminster John Knox Press. He is Professor of English at Baylor  University, and a licensed lay preacher in the Episcopal Church.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Garrett\u2019s column, \u201cFaithful Citizenship,\u201d is published every Thursday on the <\/em><a href=\"..\/..\/..\/Religion-Portals\/Mainline-Protestant.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Mainline Protestant portal<\/em><\/a><em>. Subscribe via email or <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/PatheosArticles-FaithfulCitizenship\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>RSS<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Naturally there is nothing in the Bible about guns themselves, and there is little in scripture about rights, as we understand and claim them in America, including the right to bear arms (although a considerable amount about responsibilities). 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