{"id":1048,"date":"2008-02-06T20:30:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-06T20:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/02\/mcg-talks-just-a-little-about-terminator-4\/"},"modified":"2008-02-06T20:30:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-06T20:30:00","slug":"mcg-talks-just-a-little-about-terminator-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/02\/mcg-talks-just-a-little-about-terminator-4.html","title":{"rendered":"McG talks, just a little, about Terminator 4."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/R1YMdZDkcAI\/AAAAAAAAA4Y\/LO9E_uG8UFo\/s1600-h\/terminator3-robots.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/R1YMdZDkcAI\/AAAAAAAAA4Y\/LO9E_uG8UFo\/s400\/terminator3-robots.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><br><span style=\"font-family: georgia\">I might as well offer my own two bits on that interview that <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/more-alleged-details-re-terminator-4.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins<\/a><\/i> director McG did with <a href=\"http:\/\/the213.net\/php\/article.php?id=977\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The 213<\/a> recently; it\u2019s been making the rounds today:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>(213):<\/b> How will the TV show play into the film in terms of timelines? <\/p>\n<p><b>McG:<\/b> It\u2019s a little tricky, but I mean obviously there\u2019s some liberties taken. What Cameron did with the second picture and what Mostow did with the third and certainly the TV show in the spirit of week in, week out episodic television has to take some license as well. We\u2019re going to do what we can to respect them all, but there are indeed some timeline issues. We speak to the idea of one version of a future, which is clearly articulated by Michael Biehn in the first picture.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Good luck with <i>that<\/i>!  One of the reasons I have always loved <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/hasta-la-vista-baby-jesus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the first film<\/a> is because it is such a tightly-plotted story that there is, quite simply, no way to make a sequel to it.  So I was disappointed when I heard almost 20 years ago that James Cameron <i>was<\/i>, in fact, going to make <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/08\/terminators-increasingly-tangled.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a sequel<\/a> to it \u2014 and then I didn\u2019t know what to make of the fact that Cameron decided to jettison the first film\u2019s underlying approach to time-travel altogether.  The first film is defined by causal loops; the second film says these loops can be ignored, even though the story wouldn\u2019t exist without them.  And <i>then<\/i>, the third film came along and said the loops are still there, just kind of \u2026 wrinkled.  So it has been a delight to watch <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/sarah-connor-chronicles-is-almost-here.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Sarah Connor Chronicles<\/a><\/i> \u2014 I have only seen the first three episodes so far \u2014 and to see the way this series just ignores the concept of franchise continuity altogether.  There is simply no way that this series and the third movie can exist in the same timeline \u2014 not unless they plan to wrap the series up in a deeply contrived and unsatisfying way.  So really, why bother trying to \u201crespect\u201d all the various sequels and spin-offs?  Why not just accept that each story takes place in <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/these-are-john-connors-i-know-i-know.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">its own parallel universe<\/a>, and leave it at that?<\/p>\n<p>And wait a minute, what\u2019s this about Michael Biehn saying something about there being only one version of the future?  Didn\u2019t his character say the exact <i>opposite<\/i>, that there is no fate but what we make for ourselves, when he passed along a message from John Connor to his mother?  And even if Biehn\u2019s character <i>did<\/i> say that there was only one version of the future, haven\u2019t the sequels and the TV spin-off all pretty much disproved that now?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>(213):<\/b> So is this taking off after number three or number two?<\/p>\n<p><b>McG:<\/b> This is the space between; this is post Judgment day. So there really is no continuation, you know what I mean? Its sort of a different animal, whereas the first two pictures on this thing are Terminators from the future, this picture takes place in 2019.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Uh, sounds like the answer is: \u201cAfter number three.\u201d  The third picture in \u201cthis thing\u201d <i>also<\/i> featured a couple of Terminators from the future, too.  And it was the third film that ended with the missiles flying \u2014 apparently no later than 2004.  Unless they rewrite the back-story all over again, this would mean the new film is taking place at least 15 years after Judgment Day.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>(213):<\/b> I was curious, you have your own signature style, which is obviously something that\u2019s different from Terminator films we\u2019ve seen before \u2013 how do you feel it will mesh with the new film?<\/p>\n<p><b>McG:<\/b> It was important to me to honor James Cameron\u2019s pictures and I spoke to him for a long time, he\u2019s down in New Zealand doing Avatar, and he was very encouraging saying \u201cLook, I was in the same spot following Ridley Scott on the second Aliens picture \u2013 it\u2019s like, what are you doing, it\u2019s Ridley!\u201d And he said, \u201cI wanted to be respectful of the film by Ridley, but I wanna go in a direction where hopefully I can satisfy the hard core fans, but also build upon what\u2019s put before us.\u201d And I would never be so bold as to say that we\u2019re going to be successful, but we\u2019re certainly going to do our best and I think we\u2019re greatly protected by Christian Bale.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I gotta admit, I like that James Cameron anecdote.  And not just because I like <i><a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/onfilm\/message\/7354\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Aliens<\/a><\/i> (1986) a fair bit better than <i>Alien<\/i> (1979) \u2014 though in fact, one of the things I like about <i>Aliens<\/i> is the way it stays very true to the spirit of its predecessor, while building on it.  I have no idea if McG can do half as good a job at sequelizing someone else\u2019s work as Cameron did, but at least McG is paying <i>some<\/i> sort of homage to the guy who started this franchise.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>(213):<\/b> Come on, who would be McG\u2019s \u201cdream Terminator\u201d?!<\/p>\n<p><b>McG:<\/b> You know, those are big shoes to fill. If you go back and look at the first picture it\u2019s so funny because there\u2019s such a decided difference between what Arnold was doing in the first picture and in the second and third picture. I mean there\u2019s this decided physicality \u2013 look what Robert Patrick did to get ready for the role. He\u2019s a guy who I adore, I put him in every movie I\u2019ve ever done. And it\u2019s very difficult to say because it\u2019s a decidedly masculine role and I think we\u2019re living in a time where a lot of actors are very effeminate and they\u2019re sort of skinny, heroine chic and there\u2019s really a masculine component to the role. And there\u2019s guys out there like Russell Crowe and Eric Bana, bring a good physicality, they do what they do, but I don\u2019t know if they\u2019re exactly right at the end of the day. (Smiles) Josh Brolin is a very exciting actor \u2013 we\u2019ll see.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hmmm, I know <a href=\"http:\/\/hollywood-elsewhere.com\/archives\/2008\/02\/dont_do_it_josh.php\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jeffrey Wells<\/a> at Hollywood Elsewhere thinks this is a bad idea, but I kind of like the sound of that.  Though it would be funny to see Brolin <i>play<\/i> a Terminator so soon after starring in <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/oscar-winners-slipping-at-box-office.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">No Country for Old Men<\/a><\/i>, a film in which he played someone who was trying to get away from <i>another<\/i> character who was described by many critics as resembling a Terminator.  In any case, won\u2019t Brolin be busy with <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/newsbites-trek-genies-bush-cleanflicks.html#3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Oliver Stone<\/a>\u2018s <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/oliver-stone-to-tackle-george-w-bush.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bush<\/a><\/i> pretty soon?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also interesting to hear Crowe and Bana named so close together, since <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/08\/is-russell-crowe-being-wooed-to-play.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">one<\/a> was rumoured to be in the running for the part of the villain in <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/02\/newsbites-cleanflicks-kong-rambo-trek.html#5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Star Trek XI<\/a><\/i>, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/eric-bana-is-bad-guy-in-star-trek-xi.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">other<\/a> actually <i>got<\/i> the part.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I might as well offer my own two bits on that interview that Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins director McG did with The 213 recently; it\u2019s been making the rounds today: (213): How will the TV show play into the film in terms of timelines? 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