{"id":1290,"date":"2007-10-13T11:13:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-13T11:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/10\/errol-morris-on-robert-fentons-war-photos\/"},"modified":"2007-10-13T11:13:00","modified_gmt":"2007-10-13T11:13:00","slug":"errol-morris-on-robert-fentons-war-photos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/10\/errol-morris-on-robert-fentons-war-photos.html","title":{"rendered":"Errol Morris on Robert Fenton&#8217;s war photos"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-family: georgia\">Just in case you haven\u2019t seen them yet, <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/08\/newsbites-morris-maher-voyage-escape.html#1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Errol Morris<\/a> \u2014 one of my <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2005\/04\/new-errol-morris-dvds-coming-soon.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">favorite<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2005\/09\/newsbites-niche-morris-manhunt.html#2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">filmmakers<\/a> \u2014 has posted some fascinating items at his <i>New York Times<\/i> blog regarding a couple of photos that were taken by Robert Fenton during the Crimean War, back in 1855.  Both of these photographs depict the exact same landscape from the exact same position, but in one photo, there are cannonballs ON the road, whereas in the other photo, they are OFF the road.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Morris examines the many competing claims as to which photo was taken first, and as to whether Fenton staged one of them, and along the way he makes some very interesting points about history, methodology, and so on.  He also talks about the trip he made to the place where the photos were taken \u2014 a place known, at least during the war, as the Valley of the Shadow of Death \u2014 to see if that might help him figure out which photo came first.<\/p>\n<p>Morris is especially curious to know if the order of the photos can be figured out by examining the photos themselves, without any reference to other people\u2019s claims about them (and if you open the <a href=\"http:\/\/graphics8.nytimes.com\/images\/blogs\/morris\/match1-large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">OFF<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/graphics8.nytimes.com\/images\/blogs\/morris\/match2-large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">ON<\/a> photos in separate browser tabs, and then flip back and forth between them, you can try to figure it out too!).<\/p>\n<p>So far, Morris has posted <a href=\"http:\/\/morris.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/09\/25\/which-came-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg-part-one\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">part one<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/morris.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/10\/04\/which-came-first-part-two\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">part two<\/a> of his musings, along with links to some <a href=\"http:\/\/morris.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/09\/28\/additional-resources\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">additional resources<\/a>.  There will be a part three and, possibly, a part four later on.  Stay tuned!<\/p>\n<p>The OFF photo:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEO3ZgNg9I\/AAAAAAAAAu8\/xL57b4BmI-I\/s1600-h\/robertfenton-off-a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEO3ZgNg9I\/AAAAAAAAAu8\/xL57b4BmI-I\/s400\/robertfenton-off-a.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The ON photo:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEO3ZgNg-I\/AAAAAAAAAvE\/Yo8vFjkkuDQ\/s1600-h\/robertfenton-on-a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEO3ZgNg-I\/AAAAAAAAAvE\/Yo8vFjkkuDQ\/s400\/robertfenton-on-a.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The OFF photo against the landscape 150 years later:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEOPJgNg7I\/AAAAAAAAAus\/mKUrRWj-_fI\/s1600-h\/robertfenton-morris-off.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEOPJgNg7I\/AAAAAAAAAus\/mKUrRWj-_fI\/s400\/robertfenton-morris-off.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The landscape itself:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEOPZgNg8I\/AAAAAAAAAu0\/kMEGRQyPW5U\/s1600-h\/robertfenton-morris.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/RxEOPZgNg8I\/AAAAAAAAAu0\/kMEGRQyPW5U\/s400\/robertfenton-morris.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>OCT 24 UPDATE:  Morris has now posted <a href=\"http:\/\/morris.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/10\/23\/which-came-first-part-three-can-george-lionel-and-marmaduke-help-us-order-the-fenton-photographs\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">part three<\/a> of his series.<\/p>\n<p>DEC 18 UPDATE:  Morris has now posted <a href=\"http:\/\/morris.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/12\/18\/not-your-moms-apple-pie-chart\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">an analysis<\/a> of the various interpretations of the photos made by his readers.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just in case you haven\u2019t seen them yet, Errol Morris \u2014 one of my favorite filmmakers \u2014 has posted some fascinating items at his New York Times blog regarding a couple of photos that were taken by Robert Fenton during the Crimean War, back in 1855. 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