{"id":14813,"date":"2014-03-03T10:48:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-03T18:48:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/?p=14813"},"modified":"2014-03-03T18:59:07","modified_gmt":"2014-03-04T02:59:07","slug":"ridley-scott-to-explore-whether-moses-was-agnostic-etc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2014\/03\/ridley-scott-to-explore-whether-moses-was-agnostic-etc.html","title":{"rendered":"Ridley Scott to explore whether Moses was agnostic, etc."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2014\/03\/exodus-scott-bale.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2014\/03\/exodus-scott-bale-300x210.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"exodus-scott-bale\" width=\"300\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-14814\"><\/a>The latest issue of <i>Entertainment Weekly<\/i> has an article on \u2018Hollywood\u2019s New Holy War\u2019. The hook for the story is the three Bible movies coming out this year, but the story itself takes a broader look at how movie studios have been openly courting the Christian demographic ever since the surprise success of <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/passion-of-the-christ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Passion of the Christ<\/a><\/i> ten years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, as the article notes, the studios\u2019 efforts have been pretty successful (<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/narnia\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Chronicles of Narnia<\/a><\/i>, <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/blind-side\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Blind Side<\/a><\/i>), and sometimes they have been\u2026 not so successful (<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/nativity-story\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Nativity Story<\/a><\/i>, <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/evan-almighty\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Evan Almighty<\/a><\/i>).<\/p>\n<p>But what catches my eye is a sidebar on Ridley Scott\u2019s life-of-Moses movie <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/exodus-2015\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Exodus<\/a><\/i>, which has a couple of new quotes from Scott and Christian Bale:<br>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>RIDLEY SCOTT\u2019S <i>Exodus<\/i> (out Dec. 12) will tackle all the biblical set pieces \u2014 the plagues, the burning bush, the parting of the Red Sea \u2014 but Christian Bale plays Moses as a swarthy action hero who leads the Israelites out of Egypt. Think <i>Gladiator<\/i>, not <i>The Ten Commandments<\/i>. \u201cHe\u2019s a fascinating character when you get away from the Sunday-school idea,\u201d Bale says. \u201cHe\u2019s a surprising character for me, and very extreme. [With Moses] there are no half measures.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Scott says the film, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2013\/11\/is-ridley-scotts-exodus-the-first-bible-epic-to-be-shot-in-3d.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">shot in 3-D<\/a>, will focus on Moses\u2019 achievements as well as his humanity \u2014 early on, he even questions his faith. \u201cWas he agnostic? Was he a person who simply believed in dust-to-dust and ashes-to-ashes?\u201d Scott says. \u201cWas he cynical about the idea of an afterlife? We address all those things.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Bale quote is very similar to something he said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2013\/11\/ridley-scotts-moses-movie-will-be-shocking-says-bale.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">back in November<\/a>, but the Scott quote is new, to me at least. Scott has talked in the past about how <i>his own<\/i> atheism or agnosticism might influence the movie (e.g. \u201cI\u2019m an atheist, which is actually good, because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2013\/10\/how-do-you-promote-a-bible-epic-when-youre-not-religious.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I\u2019ve got to convince myself the story works<\/a>\u201d), but this is the first time I\u2019ve seen him allude to <i>the character\u2019s<\/i> agnosticism.<\/p>\n<p>You might think that the film would resolve this question by the time Moses has his encounter with the burning bush, but keep in mind this quote from Joel Edgerton, who plays Rameses, which appeared <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2014\/02\/ridley-scotts-unconventional-depiction-of-god-in-exodus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">in <i>Total Film<\/i> last month<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe scale of it is epic,\u201d he muses, \u201cbut within that, Ridley and [screenwriter] Steve Zaillian really kind of draw into a sense of reality and find touchstones for how there\u2019s a plausibility to the plagues and these grand things, so there\u2019s still a sense of magic and awe, but also potentially within that mystery there\u2019s something to hold onto.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For what it\u2019s worth, this whole thing reminds me of some of the discussion that took place around Scott\u2019s earlier film <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/kingdom-of-heaven\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Kingdom of Heaven<\/a><\/i> nine years ago. The junket for that film, which I attended, included a panel discussion featuring three historians, at least two of whom noted that the Crusaders in that film were less medieval than perhaps they should have been.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMany of the people in the movie have, I think, a more modern sensibility,\u201d said Nancy Caciola, referring specifically to the agnostic main character\u2019s fair-minded ecumenism. Her point was echoed by Donald Spoto, who noted, \u201cAtheism was unknown [in the Middle Ages]. People may have been rotten to the core and may not have practiced religion, but I think it is indefensible to say that anyone would really claim not to believe in God. That was bred in the bone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So it seems that Scott may be injecting more of that modern agnostic sensibility into his movie about ancient Hebrews and Egyptians, though how far he will go with it remains to be seen.<\/p>\n<p>For now, the <i>Entertainment Weekly<\/i> article notes that the studio plans to promote the film \u201cmore as a <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/gladiator-2000\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Gladiator<\/a><\/i>-style action epic than a biblical movie per se.\u201d So as unconventional as <i>Exodus<\/i> might be, it sounds like the studio is trying to avoid the situation Paramount finds itself in right now, where it originally said <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/noah-2014\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Noah<\/a><\/i> would be \u201ca close adaptation of the Biblical story\u201d and now finds itself <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2014\/02\/the-noah-marketing-campaign-adds-a-disclaimer.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">backtracking somewhat<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the page from which the sidebar comes:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2014\/03\/ew-biblemovies2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2014\/03\/ew-biblemovies2-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"ew-biblemovies2\" width=\"590\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-14826\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ridley Scott says the Moses in his upcoming movie <i>Exodus<\/i>, played by Christian Bale, will question his faith.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1116,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[762,1944,743,1396,745,342,1943,27],"class_list":["post-14813","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog","tag-christian-bale","tag-donald-spoto","tag-exodus-2015","tag-joel-edgerton","tag-kingdom-of-heaven","tag-moses","tag-nancy-caciola","tag-ridley-scott"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Ridley Scott to explore whether Moses was agnostic, etc.<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Ridley Scott says the Moses in his upcoming movie Exodus, played by Christian Bale, will question his faith.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2014\/03\/ridley-scott-to-explore-whether-moses-was-agnostic-etc.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ridley Scott to explore whether Moses was agnostic, etc.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Ridley Scott says the Moses in his upcoming movie Exodus, played by Christian Bale, will question his faith.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2014\/03\/ridley-scott-to-explore-whether-moses-was-agnostic-etc.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"FilmChat\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2014-03-03T18:48:41+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2014-03-04T02:59:07+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/files\/2014\/03\/exodus-scott-bale-300x210.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Peter T. 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