{"id":1732,"date":"2007-02-04T18:34:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-04T18:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/02\/they-keep-re-doing-it-and-never-get-it-right\/"},"modified":"2007-02-04T18:34:00","modified_gmt":"2007-02-04T18:34:00","slug":"they-keep-re-doing-it-and-never-get-it-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/02\/they-keep-re-doing-it-and-never-get-it-right.html","title":{"rendered":"They keep re-doing it, and never get it right."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-family: georgia\">Curiouser and curiouser.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>You may recall that I posted an item here <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/were-cartoons-always-framed-this.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">two months ago<\/a> complaining about the tight cropping of most of the cartoons on <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/B000ICM5R6\/petertchatta\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">More Silly Symphonies: 1929 \u2013 1938<\/a><\/i>, one of the most recent entries in the \u2018<a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/walt-disney-treasures-end-is-here.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Walt Disney Treasures<\/a>\u2018 series of DVDs.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, I noted that <i>The Goddess of Spring<\/i> (1934) was <i>not<\/i> \u201cwindowboxed\u201d like the other films, and I assumed this was because Disney was re-using the version they had made six years ago, when it was included as a bonus feature on the \u201cplatinum edition\u201d of <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/B00003CXCQ\/petertchatta\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs<\/a><\/i> (1937).<\/p>\n<p>But now it seems I was wrong about that.<\/p>\n<p>UltimateDisney.com recently put up reviews with screen captures of <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ultimatedisney.com\/moresillysymphoniesb.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">More Silly Symphonies<\/a><\/i> and another new release, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ultimatedisney.com\/itsasmallworldoffun-volume4.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">It\u2019s a Small World of Fun, Vol. 4<\/a><\/i>, which <i>also<\/i> includes <i>The Goddess of Spring<\/i> \u2014 but the version on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/B000KP626G\/petertchatta\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">that newest disc<\/a> is windowboxed, which the version on <i>More Silly Symphonies<\/i> most definitely is not!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/448192\/goddessofspring06.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/629250\/goddessofspring06.jpg\" align=\"left\" width=\"195\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/747650\/goddessofspring07.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/758337\/goddessofspring07.jpg\" width=\"195\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This made me curious, to see how the windowboxed image compares to the equivalent frame on the earlier versions of this cartoon.  So I pulled out my copy of <i>Snow White<\/i> and fired up the cartoon \u2014 and I immediately discovered that the <i>Snow White<\/i> version is actually different from the <i>More Silly<\/i> version!<\/p>\n<p>The <i>Snow White<\/i> version begins with an MPAA seal of approval, which is followed by the image on the left, whereas the <i>More Silly<\/i> version begins abruptly with the image on the right:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/160076\/cap540.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/963285\/cap540.jpg\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/983096\/cap496.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/687892\/cap496.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You can see ever-so-slight differences between the <i>Snow White<\/i> and <i>More Silly<\/i> versions of the frames below, too \u2014 in terms of the cropping and the colours, I mean (alas, I wasn\u2019t able to capture <i>exactly<\/i> the same frames, in terms of the characters\u2019 poses, etc.):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/293190\/cap541.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/622838\/cap541.jpg\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/788442\/cap543.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/553225\/cap543.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/8225\/cap542.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/545372\/cap542.jpg\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/281345\/cap544.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/103724\/cap544.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But what <i>really<\/i> surprises me is that the windowboxed image from the <i>It\u2019s a Small World<\/i> disc actually seems to incorporate <i>more<\/i> of the original animated frame \u2014 though it <i>still<\/i> cuts some of it off!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/293190\/cap541.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/622838\/cap541.jpg\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" width=\"195\" alt=\"\"><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/1600\/747650\/goddessofspring07.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/x\/blogger\/7991\/933\/400\/758337\/goddessofspring07.jpg\" width=\"195\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is <i>very<\/i> irritating.  I can appreciate that colours and the like might vary from one transfer to another \u2014 but dudes, is it really so hard to keep the <i>entire<\/i> frame, the way the animators <i>drew<\/i> it!?<\/p>\n<p>And why is there a <i>new<\/i> version with <i>every<\/i> DVD release!?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Curiouser and curiouser. You may recall that I posted an item here two months ago complaining about the tight cropping of most of the cartoons on More Silly Symphonies: 1929 \u2013 1938, one of the most recent entries in the \u2018Walt Disney Treasures\u2018 series of DVDs. 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