{"id":3138,"date":"2012-07-12T18:33:02","date_gmt":"2012-07-13T00:33:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/?p=3138"},"modified":"2013-01-17T14:45:18","modified_gmt":"2013-01-17T22:45:18","slug":"star-trek-sequel-villain-rumours-sifting-the-evidence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2012\/07\/star-trek-sequel-villain-rumours-sifting-the-evidence.html","title":{"rendered":"<i>Star Trek<\/i> sequel villain rumours: sifting the evidence"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2012\/07\/garymitchell-a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2012\/07\/garymitchell-a-228x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"garymitchell-a\" width=\"228\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-3212\"><\/a>First, let\u2019s get what should be obvious out of the way: you don\u2019t <i>need<\/i> a villain to make a good <i>Star Trek<\/i> story. Indeed, the top-grossing entry in the franchise ever, prior to J.J. Abrams\u2019 reboot a few years ago, was <i>Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home<\/i> (1986), and there were no villains in <i>that<\/i> film unless you count the human race, which had hunted humpback whales to extinction.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise with the original TV series, in which some of the best-loved episodes, such as \u2018City on the Edge of Forever\u2019, didn\u2019t have any villains whatsoever, while others \u2014 such as \u2018The Naked Time\u2019, \u2018The Enemy Within\u2019 and \u2018Amok Time\u2019 \u2014 were primarily concerned with the conflicting passions <i>within<\/i> our heroes and not with any external antagonists that they might face. (You could even toss \u2018Mirror, Mirror\u2019 into that last list; the Mirror Universe counterparts to our heroes might be villains in some sense, but they also suggest something about our heroes\u2019 darker sides, and the episode itself is primarily concerned with getting each set of characters back to the universe in which they belong, not unlike how Kirk\u2019s better and darker halves are restored to their proper balanced relationship to one another in \u2018The Enemy Within\u2019.)<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->And then there\u2019s \u2018The Trouble with Tribbles\u2019, where the Klingons are certainly antagonists of a sort, but in a way that is played strictly for laughs; the one incident of violence in the entire episode is a bar brawl played for comic effect \u2014 and it is technically started by Scotty, not the Klingons.<\/p>\n<p>Even when Kirk faces a more lethal sort of nemesis, the episode in question is just as likely to underscore the fact that Kirk and his opponent are really just opposite sides of a conflict that is bigger than either of them, and bigger than any easy attempts to identify one side or the other as \u201cgood\u201d or \u201cevil\u201d. In \u2018Balance of Terror\u2019, the Romulan commander might be engaged in a life-or-death combat with Kirk, but is he really a villain, <i>per se<\/i>? (If anything, the greater evil in that episode is represented by the Starfleet officer who, upon noticing the resemblance between Romulans and Vulcans, allows his prejudices against one group to spill over to the other.) Likewise the Gorn captain in \u2018Arena\u2019, whose life Kirk spares when he realizes that the Gorn may have been acting in self-defense.<\/p>\n<p>Now, certainly, <i>of course<\/i>, there have been villains in <i>Star Trek<\/i>, the most famous of whom is <a href=\"http:\/\/en.memory-alpha.org\/wiki\/Khan_Noonien_Singh\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Khan Noonien Singh<\/a>, the genetically-engineered 20th-century warlord who was introduced in \u2018Space Seed\u2019 and returned to the franchise 15 years later in <i>Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan<\/i> (1982).<\/p>\n<p>But my point here is that <i>Star Trek<\/i> doesn\u2019t <i>need<\/i> a villain who threatens everyone\u2019s life and is, himself, killed by the end of the episode. It may indeed be that most of the <i>Star Trek<\/i> movies \u2014 including every single film going back at least as far as <i>Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country<\/i> (1991) \u2014 have lapsed into this kind of storytelling pattern. But it doesn\u2019t <i>have<\/i> to be that way.<\/p>\n<p>That being said, J.J. Abrams has shown no interest in breaking this mold; indeed, his mission all along has been to make <i>Star Trek<\/i> movies for people who don\u2019t necessarily care about <i>Star Trek<\/i>, and if that means conforming to the template that demands big fights, big explosions, and big villains, then, apparently, so be it.<\/p>\n<p>The big mystery <i>now<\/i>, of course, is who the villain in the next <i>Star Trek<\/i> movie will be. We all know who is <i>playing<\/i> him \u2014 namely Benedict Cumberbatch \u2014 but Abrams, as is his wont, won\u2019t say who the character actually <i>is<\/i>. And so everyone has been jumping on the latest bits of news, rumour and, no doubt, deliberate misinformation, hoping to figure things out before the movie\u2019s p.r. campaign kicks into high gear and makes the answer obvious.<\/p>\n<p>The latest bit of buzz was generated a few days ago by Karl Urban, who plays Dr McCoy in the new films; when <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfx.co.uk\/2012\/07\/09\/star-trek-2-villain-revealed\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">SFX<\/a><\/i> asked him what it was like to work with Cumberbatch, Urban replied: \u201cHe\u2019s awesome, he\u2019s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Taken at face value, then, it would seem that Urban has just revealed that the villain or antagonist of the new film will be <a href=\"http:\/\/en.memory-alpha.org\/wiki\/Gary_Mitchell\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gary Mitchell<\/a>, the former Starfleet Academy buddy of Kirk\u2019s who, on the original timeline, acquired godlike powers after an encounter with the Galactic Barrier and thus became an arrogant menace to his former shipmates. But <i>should<\/i> we take Urban\u2019s claim at face value? Maybe, maybe not.<\/p>\n<p>On the maybe side of the ledger:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/badassdigest.com\/2010\/10\/25\/scoop-no-khan-in-star-trek-2-so-who-will-kirk-co-face\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Devin Faraci<\/a> of Badass Digest reported way, way back in October 2010 that an \u201cinformant\u201d close to the production had told him that the film would feature \u201cHarry Mudd or Trelane or Gary Mitchell or the Talosians or the Horta.\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n<p>On the maybe-not side of the ledger:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>In June, co-writer Roberto Orci included Gary Mitchell in a list of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joblo.com\/movie-news\/screenwriter-roberto-orci-lists-five-characters-who-will-not-be-in-star-trek-2\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">five characters who will <i>not<\/i> be in the sequel<\/a>.\n<\/li><li>The Cumberbatch role was almost played by Benicio Del Toro, and the producers considered casting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.variety.com\/article\/VR1118047180\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Edgar Ramirez or Jordi Moll\u00e0<\/a> in his place once the talks with Del Toro fell through. Do any of those actors seem like Gary Mitchell types?\n<\/li><li>The character was already featured \u2014 and killed \u2014 in <a href=\"https:\/\/shop.idwpublishing.com\/comics\/series\/star-trek\/ongoing\/star-trek-ongoing-2-2nd-printing.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">an issue of the comics<\/a> that are currently being produced with input from the filmmakers. These stories are <i>supposed<\/i> to be part of the between-movie continuity, so it would seem that Mitchell has already been dealt with there.<\/li><\/ul>\n<p>Personally, I\u2019m inclined to think that Urban \u2014 one of the few members of the current cast who was already a <i>Star Trek<\/i> fan before he got the gig \u2014 was knowingly stirring the pot a bit and tossing a bit of misdirection our way. (The fact that Urban <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comingsoon.net\/news\/movienews.php?id=92490\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">backtracked a bit<\/a> today, attributing his comment to jet lag and saying he is \u201creally not at liberty to discuss anything about <i>Star Trek<\/i>,\u201d could be taken in either direction, of course.)<\/p>\n<p>Until now, much of the buzz had insisted that Cumberbatch might be playing a more obvious sort of villain, namely the aforementioned Khan Noonien Singh.<\/p>\n<p>On the maybe side of the ledger:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>That\u2019s what the often reliable Latino Review claimed in December \u2014 though <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latinoreview.com\/news\/exclusive-we-know-who-benicio-del-toro-is-playin-in-star-trek-2-15528\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">the page<\/a> containing that claim has vanished since then, as indeed have most of their news pages from the first half of December.\n<\/li><li>That\u2019s what <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vulture.com\/2011\/12\/benicio-del-toro-star-trek-sequel-khan.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Vulture<\/a> claimed, also in December, citing \u201ca highly placed source\u201d.\n<\/li><li>That\u2019s what <a href=\"http:\/\/trekmovie.com\/2012\/04\/30\/major-star-trek-sequel-spoilers-confirmed\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">TrekMovie.com<\/a> claimed, in April, citing \u201ca number of sources\u201d.\n<\/li><li>The Cumberbatch role was almost played by Benicio Del Toro, and the producers considered casting Edgar Ramirez or Jordi Moll\u00e0 in his place once the talks with Del Toro fell through. Despite the fact that Khan has a vaguely Asian name and is described in \u2018Space Seed\u2019 as \u201cprobably a Sikh\u201d, he was originally played by the Hispanic actor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/02\/baby-its-cold-outside-indeed.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Ricardo<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2009\/01\/ricardo-montalban-1920-2009.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Montalban<\/a>, so the fact that Abrams initially focused on Spanish and Latino actors was\u2026 interesting.<\/li><\/ul>\n<p>On the maybe-not side of the ledger:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>Devin Faraci\u2019s \u201cinformant\u201d \u2014 the same one quoted above \u2014 said Khan would not be part of this film, at least as far as things were concerned back in October 2010.\n<\/li><li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thinkmcflythink.com\/movie-news\/2011\/11\/16\/star-trek-sequel-welcome-to-the-jungle.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Think McFly Think<\/a> reported in November 2011 that, according to their sources, Khan would not be in the film \u2014 but the Klingons will, \u201cas a Nomadic sect of warrior aliens causing trouble for the Federation \u2013 think an intergalactic Taliban with their home-planet overrun by Tribbles.\u201d\n<\/li><li>Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in these films, has denied repeatedly \u2014 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mtv.com\/news\/articles\/1675840\/star-trek-sequel-khan.jhtml\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">in December<\/a> and again <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/film\/9285164\/How-Simon-Pegg-became-a-big-fish.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">in May<\/a> \u2014 that Khan is part of this film.<\/li><\/ul>\n<p>So, make of all that what you will. Personally, I think the evidence tilts towards Cumberbatch playing Khan, unless all those highly-placed sources have been waging a steady campaign of misinformation \u2014 which I don\u2019t necessarily rule out.<\/p>\n<p>But, as various sites have noted, filmmakers often misinform the public by <i>denying<\/i> that the rumours are true even when, in fact, the rumours <i>are<\/i> true. Michael Bay and Zack Snyder once explicitly denied that Megatron and General Zod would appear in their Transformers and Superman films, respectively, and Shia LaBeouf once <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/03\/newsbites-plissken-becket-commandments.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">denied<\/a> that he would be playing Indiana Jones\u2019s son \u2014 but in all three cases, it was the anonymous sources, and not the filmmakers, who were telling the truth.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, as ever, we will just have to wait and see which of the rumours \u2014 if any \u2014 turn out to be true in this case. But if the villain in this film <i>is<\/i> Khan, then that would be problematic, for reasons I spelled out two years ago, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2010\/06\/star-trek-sequel-please-no-khan.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>. And if an Englishman like Cumberbatch is playing Khan, then that raises other potentially problematic issues, which Charlie Jane Anders at i09 discussed a couple months ago, <a href=\"http:\/\/io9.com\/5907467\/the-real-problem-with-benedict-cumberbatchs-villain-role-in-star-trek-12\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Me, I\u2019m just hoping that at least <i>part<\/i> of what Faraci\u2019s \u201cinformant\u201d said two years ago is true, when he said that the film \u201cwon\u2019t be focused on a traditional \u2018villain\u2019 type at all.\u201d We haven\u2019t had a villain-free <i>Star Trek<\/i> movie since the \u201980s, and we are certainly overdue for another one. So if Abrams and company decided to honour this aspect of the TV show, then that would be pretty cool, actually.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jul 14 update:<\/b> Today Orci reiterated his claim that Cumberbatch is <i>not<\/i> playing Gary Mitchell, in an interview with <a href=\"http:\/\/trekmovie.com\/2012\/07\/14\/exclusive-interview-roberto-orci-reveals-star-trek-sequel-character-details-talks-title-post-production\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">TrekMovie.com<\/a>. However, he did allow that Cumberbatch is playing one of the \u201ccanonical\u201d characters, i.e. someone we have seen before in one (or more) of the previous movies and\/or TV shows.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First, let\u2019s get what should be obvious out of the way: you don\u2019t need a villain to make a good Star Trek story. Indeed, the top-grossing entry in the franchise ever, prior to J.J. 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