{"id":5277,"date":"2013-02-28T12:05:15","date_gmt":"2013-02-28T20:05:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/?p=5277"},"modified":"2013-02-28T12:27:55","modified_gmt":"2013-02-28T20:27:55","slug":"harrison-ford-asks-is-indy-a-believer-where-in-bible","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2013\/02\/harrison-ford-asks-is-indy-a-believer-where-in-bible.html","title":{"rendered":"Harrison Ford asks: &#8220;Is Indy a believer?&#8221; &#8220;Where in Bible?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2013\/02\/raiders-agents.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2013\/02\/raiders-agents-300x213.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"raiders-agents\" width=\"300\" height=\"213\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-5278\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/cinephilearchive.tumblr.com\/post\/41801743421\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cinephilia &amp; Beyond<\/a> has found what it claims is Harrison Ford\u2019s copy of the original shooting script for <i>Raiders of the Lost Ark<\/i> (1981), complete with Ford\u2019s hand-written notes. The site has posted only a few pages from the script so far, but the bits they <i>have<\/i> revealed are certainly interesting.<\/p>\n<p>One page, for example, includes some extra dialogue regarding <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2007\/12\/indiana-jones-abner-ravenwood-john-hurt.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the fate of Abner Ravenwood<\/a>, the former mentor to Indiana Jones and the father of Indy\u2019s on-and-off girlfriend Marion Ravenwood.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->But the page that jumps out at me is the one where Indy and his colleague Marcus Brody discuss the Ark of the Covenant with the government agents near the beginning of the film. (You can see the page below, at the bottom of this post.)<\/p>\n<p>In the margins, Ford wrote: \u201cIMP[ORTANT]: IS INDY A BELIEVER\u201d \u2014 and this is certainly a key question throughout the film. Indeed, as I noted in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/09\/indiana-jones-and-the-deadly-blather-notes-on-the-devolution-of-a-franchise.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my article<\/a> on the series for <i>Books &amp; Culture<\/i>, this question is part of a recurring (if increasingly implausible) pattern throughout the series: each film begins with Indy expressing skepticism in the supernatural and ends with him believing, on some level, in whatever supernatural object he has encountered this time.<\/p>\n<p>I also like the way Ford wrote \u201cWHERE IN BIBLE\u201d next to this bit of dialogue, which was apparently going to be spoken by Indy before it was transferred to Brody:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Oh yes. The Bible tells of it leveling mountains and wasting entire regions. Moses promised that when the Ark was with you, \u201cyour enemies will be scattered and your foes flee before you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(pause)<\/p>\n<p>An army which carries the Ark before it is invincible.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don\u2019t know if Ford was asking where the entire bit of dialogue came from, or just where the bit between the quote marks came from, but for what it\u2019s worth, the line attributed to Moses here \u2014 which was ultimately cut from the finished film \u2014 comes from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Numbers+10:35&amp;version=NIV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Numbers 10:35<\/a>, which says (in the NIV translation):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Whenever the ark set out, Moses said,<\/p>\n<p>\u201cRise up, Lord!<br>\n    May your enemies be scattered;<br>\n    may your foes flee before you.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One key detail to note here is that, in the script, the second-person \u201cyou\u201d and \u201cyour\u201d seem to refer to the people who carry the Ark before them \u2014 but in the original biblical passage, \u201cyou\u201d and \u201cyour\u201d clearly refer to God himself. In the Bible, Moses directs these words to God as part of a call for God to act (and this prayer is repeated in churches to this day, when we sing \u201cLet God arise! Let his enemies be scattered!\u201d), but the film suggests that Moses directed these words to <i>other people<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Still, even a cursory reading of the Old Testament should demonstrate that the Ark of the Covenant did not guarantee military power to whoever happened to be carrying it; just look at the story in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=1%20Samuel%204-7:2&amp;version=NIV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">I Samuel 4-6<\/a> in which the Israelites take the Ark into battle <i>assuming<\/i> it will help them win, and then they suffer a devastating defeat, after which the Philistines take the Ark back to their own country and discover that it brings a plague with it wherever it goes. (Note, incidentally, how the end of that story includes an episode very much like the end of <i>Raiders<\/i>, in which dozens of people are struck down dead for looking inside the Ark.) The Ark cannot be manipulated the way Indy or Brody suggest, here; it is a tool of God\u2019s, and not a tool of our own \u2014 and I think the film as a whole ultimately affirms that broader point of view.<\/p>\n<p>If, however, Ford was wondering where the Bible talks about the Ark of the Covenant \u201cleveling mountains and wasting entire regions,\u201d then I must confess I\u2019m not entirely sure. I have long thought that this might be an indirect reference to the story in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Numbers+16&amp;version=NIV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Numbers 16<\/a> about the ground opening up and swallowing the families of Korah and his associates when they rebelled against Moses, but there is no explicit reference to the Ark in that passage. The Ark presumably would have been inside the Tabernacle when the cloud marking \u201cthe glory of the LORD\u201d appeared there, though.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, there is the curious bit at the end of the dialogue in which Indy says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Oh there\u2019s one other thing that Hitler undoubtably (<i>sic<\/i>) believes about the Ark\u2026<\/p>\n<p>(a long pregnant pause)<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s said that the Lost Ark will be recovered at the time of the coming of the True Messiah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As you can see, it appears that this line was struck from the script while they were still shooting the film \u2014 and I can think of a few reasons why they might have cut it.<\/p>\n<p>For one thing, it doesn\u2019t really <i>add<\/i> anything to the film. The prospect of the Nazis having an \u201cinvincible\u201d army is reason enough for us to root for the good guys.<\/p>\n<p>Second, it had the potential to be religiously divisive. Christians believe the Messiah has <i>already<\/i> come, in the person of Jesus, and the Ark was lost several centuries before then \u2014 so if the Ark hasn\u2019t been recovered yet, the prophecy Indy cites here would seem to indicate that Jesus <i>wasn\u2019t<\/i> the Messiah.<\/p>\n<p>Third, what would the implications of this line be for the end of the film, when the Ark <i>is<\/i> recovered and ends up in American hands? Would there, in fact, be a \u201cTrue Messiah\u201d somewhere in the world? If so, who would he be? If not, then would the prophecy be disproved, and would the Ark therefore lose some of its mystique?<\/p>\n<p>As it stands, the film ends with the Ark vindicating most of the claims that <i>have<\/i> been made about it earlier in the story, so it would arguably undermine that ending if there had been other claims that did <i>not<\/i> get a similar sort of payoff.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here\u2019s the page itself. Enjoy:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2013\/02\/raiders-script-18.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2013\/02\/raiders-script-18.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"raiders-script-18\" width=\"610\" height=\"924\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-5283\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cinephilia &amp; Beyond has found what it claims is Harrison Ford\u2019s copy of the original shooting script for Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), complete with Ford\u2019s hand-written notes. The site has posted only a few pages from the script so far, but the bits they have revealed are certainly interesting. 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