{"id":61663,"date":"2019-04-08T06:30:33","date_gmt":"2019-04-08T13:30:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/?p=61663"},"modified":"2019-04-23T10:56:45","modified_gmt":"2019-04-23T17:56:45","slug":"mary-magdalene-the-garth-davis-interview-round-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2019\/04\/mary-magdalene-the-garth-davis-interview-round-up.html","title":{"rendered":"<i>Mary Magdalene<\/i>: the Garth Davis interview round-up"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2019\/04\/marymagdalene-garthdirecting-a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2019\/04\/marymagdalene-garthdirecting-a-1024x497.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"497\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-61846\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/tag\/mary-magdalene-2018\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Magdalene<\/a><\/i> is finally coming to North American theatres this week.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know if we\u2019ll be seeing any new interviews with the cast and crew of that film, but I did keep track of some of the interviews that they did <i>last<\/i> year for the film\u2019s foreign release \u2014 so I figured now would be a good time to link to all those articles and videos.<\/p>\n<p>This post will focus on the interviews with director Garth Davis (who is sometimes joined in the interviews by members of his cast, particularly lead actress Rooney Mara).<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->I previously linked to interviews with Davis about this film in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2016\/12\/mary-magdalene-director-garth-davis-says-rooney-maras-version-character-will-not-prostitute.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2016<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2017\/02\/newsbites-jesus-movies-past-future-edition.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2017<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2018\/03\/watch-makers-mary-magdalene-talk-taking-people-back-core-message-jesus-new-featurette.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2018<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Since then, Davis spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.broadsheet.com.au\/national\/entertainment\/article\/revisiting-mary-magdalene\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Broadsheet<\/a><\/i> in Australia:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For Davis, the story of Malala Yousafzai \u2013 the Pakistani women\u2019s-education activist who became the youngest ever Nobel Prize laureate \u2013 was a significant influence. In 2012 a Taliban gunman shot her in the head, but she survived and offered forgiveness to her assailant.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis story is similarly celebrating forgiveness and love. Malala\u2019s a hero of mine,\u201d says Davis. \u201cShe has this light in her. When I first encountered her I thought, this woman\u2019s going to change the world. In Mary, I saw a lot of similarities. Rooney saw the same.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In 2009 a Magdala synagogue \u2013 buried for millennia \u2013 was discovered during an excavation in northern Israel. Davis visited the site while developing his film. \u201cI had the characters in my heart and soul, and then I was there,\u201d he says. \u201cIt was a beautiful space. The mosaics and the frescos were still there.\u201d The story felt real to him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(Side note: I have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2019\/03\/watch-the-american-trailer-for-mary-magdalene-downplays-the-movies-feminism-and-god-talk-emphasizes-politics-and-marys-personal-closeness-to-jesus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">visited that synagogue in Magdala<\/a> too!)<\/p>\n<p>Davis spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/entertainment\/movies\/from-lion-to-mary-magdalene-garth-davis-on-making-films-with-kindness-20180307-p4z3a5.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Sydney Morning Herald<\/a><\/i> about his research:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cWhen I re-read the gospel of Mary and the gospel of Mark and started getting into the research, I realised that she was actually a really significant spiritual figure and obviously a very courageous woman to have left her family to follow her spiritual calling \u2013 just a remarkable human being.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut when people think of Mary, they think of her as a lover. They\u2019re always sexualising her. I don\u2019t know where all those inventions come from and I don\u2019t know why women are always put into those contexts. But when you really go back and look at the gospels and look at the history, she was present in all the major elements of [Jesus\u2019] story and had a very close relationship with him. We\u2019re just acknowledging that.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis spoke to <a href=\"https:\/\/qnews.com.au\/aussie-director-garth-davis-talks-lion-success-and-new-drama-mary-magdelene\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">QNews<\/a> in Australia about his reasons for making the film:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The subject matter came to me, and I think the reason they gave it to me was because they wanted that spiritual, human telling of it. And that\u2019s what really excited me about it too, I mean I love biblical, religious movies. I always have had a secret fascination for them, so I got a little bit excited about going down this path. To be able to reveal Mary\u2019s story in a way that hasn\u2019t been told in 2000 years\u2026 I love her story, she\u2019s an exemplary spiritual figure, an amazing apostle\u2026 she reminded me of Malala, in that Malala forgave the Taliban.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stuff.co.nz\/entertainment\/film\/102239862\/mary-magdalene-garth-davis-on-remaining-faithful-to-the-past\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Stuff<\/a><\/i> in New Zealand about how he cast Rooney Mara as Mary Magdalene:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cFor me, Mary was someone who had this otherworldliness within her family structure. You could tell she had this spiritual calling, a spirituality that set her apart from everyone else. To do that in a way that\u2019s believable and kind of intriguing, needed qualities that I thought only a few actresses had. But having worked with Rooney [Mara) on <i>Lion<\/i>, I realised that she\u2019s a very unique actress who has this ability even in silence just to open up these worlds for the viewer. I felt she had all the qualities to bring a humanity to spirituality.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis spoke to the <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/news\/film\/2018-03-16\/mary-magdalene-director-garth-davis-responds-to-whitewashing-criticisms\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Radio Times<\/a><\/i> about the charge that his film \u201cwhitewashes\u201d Mary:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cFor me, the most critical, important thing was that I made the most emotionally compelling Mary,\u201d Davis says, \u201cand Rooney just has such a unique quality. She has an otherworldliness, and in her silences \u2013 there\u2019s no other actress like her \u2013 she just creates these universes. And all of that was just so critical in bringing to life Mary\u2019s character, so I felt that I had to choose that.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis also spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.co.uk\/article\/theres-something-about-mary-hm8mgmct2\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Times of London<\/a><\/i> in an interview that is behind a paywall.<\/p>\n<p>Davis is also featured with Mara in some articles:<\/p>\n<p>They talked to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/entertainment-arts-43369511\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">the BBC<\/a> about the non-biblical tradition that Mary was a prostitute:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cTo learn it was an invention of Pope Gregory was astonishing, and to learn that Mary\u2019s story had never been told in a popular way was tragic,\u201d says Davis.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI felt that her story absolutely had to be told, and I felt even more impassioned to tell it once I knew it had been hidden for so long.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They spoke to the <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.edp24.co.uk\/going-out\/something-about-mary-magdalene-beyond-film-controversies-1-5435607\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eastern Daily Press<\/a><\/i> in the UK:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI am not a religious expert, and I\u2019m not necessarily religious either, but the thing that we connected to is the spiritual message,\u201d says Garth Davis on why he chose to risk potentially controversial subject matter. \u201cIn some ways that is the message that has been lost today. The whole point is that we are taking people back to the core message of Jesus that we all have it in us. I just had to trust that. I loved the inclusiveness of Mary and telling the story through her point of view.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>They also spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/arts\/review\/mary-magdalene-garth-davis-film-shows-spiritual-woman-in-mans-world\/news-story\/e16c6f86711caa6a0e27d87298dc8bb0\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Australian<\/a><\/i> in an article that is currently behind a paywall.<\/p>\n<p>There is also a video interview with Davis and Mara at <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/films\/2018\/03\/14\/mary-magdalene-rooney-mara-garth-davis-story-needs-told\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Telegraph<\/a><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Davis spoke to podcaster <a href=\"https:\/\/audioboom.com\/posts\/6745325-episode-82-garth-davis-on-the-music-of-mary-magdalene-lion-johann-johannsson\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Edith Bowman<\/a> about working with Icelandic composer J\u00f3hann J\u00f3hannsson, who died shortly after finishing his work on this film:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/embeds.audioboom.com\/posts\/6745325-episode-82-garth-davis-on-the-music-of-mary-magdalene-lion-johann-johannsson\/embed\/v4?eid=AQAAAAYTqVzt7GYA\" style=\"background-color:transparent; display:block; padding: 0; max-width:700px;\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"allowtransparency\" scrolling=\"no\" title=\"Audioboom player\" allow=\"autoplay\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis provided a \u201cdirector\u2019s commentary\u201d for the movie\u2019s international trailer:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/videoembed\/vi2385426457\" allowfullscreen width=\"500\" height=\"281\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis spoke to Christian Australian radio station Hope 103.2:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mary Magdalene Director Garth Davis: Why he has a drawing of Rooney Mara - Full Interview\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qRAy23InrpU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis spoke to Film Focus about touring Israel (including many sites <i>I<\/i> visited last year!):<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Garth Davis on Mary Magdalene\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/J3KRtZJIFQA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis spoke to HeyUGuys:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Director Garth Davis - Mary Magdalene Exclusive Interview\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xXEPZZjP7nw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis and Mara spoke to ITN Productions in the UK: <\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"\/\/players.brightcove.net\/3921507366001\/Syx4Zr1Keb_default\/index.html?videoId=5750708217001\" allowfullscreen frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>They also spoke to Sarina Bellissimo (brief NSFW word choice alert)\u2026<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title='Sarina Bellissimo interviews Rooney Mara &amp; Garth Davis (\"Mary Magdalene)' width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9wKJ54CvDLU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u2026and to Movies\u2019n\u2019co in the UK:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"What made Rooney Mara play Mary Magdalene?\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cXUbu4cEdjk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Davis, Mara and Tahar Rahim (who plays Judas) spoke to the Associated Press:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Rooney Mara's spiritual journey\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DCtczyS9jlE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And Davis, Mara, Rahim and Chiwetel Ejiofor (Peter) spoke to the <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/news\/film\/2018-03-14\/the-cast-and-crew-of-mary-magdalene-on-humanising-biblical-figures-and-diversity-in-the-film-industry\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Radio Times<\/a><\/i>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Rooney Mara and Chiwetel Ejiofor on Humanising Biblical Figures in Mary Magdalene\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VxGy0qwDrHE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>There are more interview round-ups to come. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p><b>April 11 update:<\/b> Davis spoke to <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/life\/movies\/2019\/04\/10\/joaquin-phoenix-jesus-movie-depicts-mary-magdalene-as-feminist\/3394297002\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">USA Today<\/a><\/i> about his reasons for hiring a multiracial cast:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe casting was an opportunity to modernize the story and make it reflect the multicultural world we\u2019re living in now,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd ultimately, the most important thing for me was finding actors who captured those characters in a soulful and emotional way.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis spoke to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.film-news.co.uk\/news\/UK\/63487\/Storm-hit-Mary-Magdalene-set-during-ancient-exorcism-scene\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">WENN<\/a> about shooting the exorcism scene:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The director was battling with winds as he started shooting the scene in Italy but as soon as his actors started quoting from the exorcism prayer, it was as if God had an issue with what they were doing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe all had a copy of one of the ancient texts as we were preparing for the scene and almost the minute we started walking into the water, the wind just stopped. Completely. There was no movement,\u201d he tells WENN. \u201cAnd then lightning started breaking all around us. It freaked everyone out!<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was an interesting moment of life mirroring art.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Davis also just received a nomination from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.if.com.au\/thornton-edgerton-perkins-maras-and-hyde-among-nominees-for-adg-awards\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Australian Directors Guild Awards<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>April 13 update:<\/b> Davis spoke to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/kristenlopez\/2019\/04\/12\/garth-davis-mary-magdalene-interview\/#7b27aceb6305\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Forbes.com<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When asked if he believes sexism has been at the heart of the avoidance in discussing Magdalene\u2019s story, he thinks beyond that. It isn\u2019t strictly that her being a woman has prohibited her story being told, but also when she is featured there\u2019s an additional sexual component. \u201cOne minute she\u2019s a prostitute and in another version she\u2019s the wife and lover of Jesus. It\u2019s like, no. We\u2019re not going to constantly sexualize these women.\u201d Davis wanted to show that Magdalene was just one of many teachers on par with the apostles, to show that women in Biblical times had some agency. He admits that, narratively, that angle might not be \u201cas dramatic and controversial as people want, but it\u2019s revolutionary to celebrate.\u201d . . .<\/p>\n<p>The hope in releasing <i>Mary Magdalene<\/i> is that it challenges audiences in an era of complacency. As Davis explains, \u201d I think audiences today don\u2019t want to be challenged\u201d by tough questions. He admits the  film is quiet and meditative, and also to eschew typical narrative beats of the Biblical film like leading revolutions against the Romans. \u201cThis film is asking the audience to stop and to embrace and to meditate on their own gifts they have.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>April 23 update:<\/b> Davis and Mara also appeared on the <a href=\"https:\/\/relevantmagazine.com\/podcast\/rooney-mara\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Relevant Podcast<\/a>. The 18-minute segment begins at 36:25 and includes a few phone-interview soundbites.<\/p>\n<p>If I find any more new interviews with Davis, I will add them to this post.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The director of the film talks about visiting the real Magdala and the real-life people who inspired his film.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1116,"featured_media":61846,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[3799,3057,1677,3328,2618,4708,428,4161,3353,3810],"class_list":["post-61663","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog","tag-chiwetel-ejiofor","tag-edith-bowman","tag-exorcism","tag-garth-davis","tag-johannes-johannesson","tag-malala-yousafzai","tag-mary-magdalene","tag-mary-magdalene-2018","tag-rooney-mara","tag-tahar-rahim"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Mary Magdalene: the Garth Davis interview round-up<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The director of the film talks about visiting the real Magdala and the real-life people who inspired his film.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2019\/04\/mary-magdalene-the-garth-davis-interview-round-up.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Mary Magdalene: the Garth Davis interview round-up\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The director of the film talks about visiting the real Magdala and the real-life people who inspired his film.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2019\/04\/mary-magdalene-the-garth-davis-interview-round-up.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"FilmChat\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2019-04-08T13:30:33+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2019-04-23T17:56:45+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/227\/2019\/04\/marymagdalene-garthdirecting-a.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"768\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"373\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Peter T. 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