{"id":807,"date":"2008-06-18T12:19:00","date_gmt":"2008-06-18T12:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/06\/bill-c-10-and-the-f-word-movie-yet-again\/"},"modified":"2008-06-18T12:19:00","modified_gmt":"2008-06-18T12:19:00","slug":"bill-c-10-and-the-f-word-movie-yet-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/06\/bill-c-10-and-the-f-word-movie-yet-again.html","title":{"rendered":"Bill C-10 and the f-word movie, yet again."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/SFnzcTpV93I\/AAAAAAAABqU\/SnBZQ_bxOvI\/s1600-h\/youngpeoplefucking3-a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/SFnzcTpV93I\/AAAAAAAABqU\/SnBZQ_bxOvI\/s400\/youngpeoplefucking3-a.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><br><span style=\"font-family: georgia\"><a href=\"http:\/\/canadianpress.google.com\/article\/ALeqM5gnFEk9BX46VmRRpNNl_dDKI7qAAw\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Canadian Press<\/a> reports that the Senate is going to amend the controversial bits of <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/bill-c-10-and-that-f-word-movie-redux.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bill C-10<\/a> \u2014 that is, the bits that would allow the government to deny tax credits to Canadian films and TV shows if they contradict certain as-yet-undefined moral or social standards \u2014 even though the bill has already been approved by the House of Commons.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This sets up an interesting situation.  Most of the Senators are Liberal, and none of them are elected, and virtually all of them were appointed by previous prime ministers.  Meanwhile, in the House of Commons, the Tories are running a two-year-old minority government, and the opposition parties \u2014 of which there are three \u2014 could have ganged up on the Tories and killed the bill if they had wanted to.  But they didn\u2019t.  And yet, according to a recent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipsos-na.com\/news\/pressrelease.cfm?id=3966\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ipsos Reid<\/a> poll, a \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/vancouversun\/news\/story.html?id=c6f07820-1f1e-45c6-a5f2-6cee8104a546\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">slim majority<\/a>\u201d of the public is on the side of the unelected Senators, rather than the elected MPs, on this issue.<\/p>\n<p>What makes this situation even more interesting is that the Tories called this bill a confidence measure, meaning any defeat of it in the House of Commons would have brought the government down and <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/bill-c-10-could-in-theory-trigger.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">prompted another election<\/a>.  (That, presumably, explains why the opposition parties didn\u2019t gang up on the Tories and kill the bill: they don\u2019t want an election right now.)  But apparently a defeat in the <i>Senate<\/i> will not have that immediate effect, or so says the CP.<\/p>\n<p>Politicians at the lower levels of government have spoken out against Bill C-10, too, or at least the controversial bits of it, in recent weeks.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/LAC.20080606.CREDIT06\/APStory\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Two weeks ago<\/a>, the mayors of Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and Halifax \u2014 all of which have vital film and TV industries \u2014 told the Senate banking committee they were opposed to this aspect of the bill because it would seriously hurt the economies in those cities.  (As a side note, the Toronto mayor\u2019s appearance at the hearing apparently required the ceremonial opening of a new film studio complex in Toronto <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hollywoodnorthreport.com\/article.php?Article=5726\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">to be postponed<\/a>.)  And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20080612.wypf0612\/BNStory\/Entertainment\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">last week<\/a>, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty spoke out against the bill too.<\/p>\n<p><i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.straight.com\/article-149268\/canadas-new-culture-war\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Georgia Straight<\/a><\/i> ran a comprehensive story on Bill C-10 last week asking if the Tories were using it to foment a \u201cculture war\u201d in Canada similar to the \u201cculture wars\u201d that have raged in the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nationalpost.com\/np\/blogs\/fullcomment\/archive\/2008\/06\/18\/anthony-furey-the-mark-steyn-case-is-the-elephant-in-the-canadian-arts-community-s-room.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anthony Furey<\/a> asks why artists across the country are up in arms over the alleged \u201ccensorship\u201d of Bill C-10 but are saying nothing about the so-called \u201chuman rights\u201d tribunals that are effectively threatening to censor writers like <i>Maclean\u2019s<\/i> columnist Mark Steyn:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I urge the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists and all the other prominent persons and organizations that have officially denounced Bill C-10 to recognize that, regardless of Maclean\u2019s\u2019 political bent, the destruction of free speech is far more virulent in the kangaroo courts of our human rights tribunals than in our income tax laws. We have so much more to lose.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For what it\u2019s worth, Steyn himself made a similar point in a column that ran <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/more-more-and-more-ado-about-bill-c-10.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">almost three months ago<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And of course, at the heart of all this fuss, and riding the wave of controversy to whatever success it can get, is the movie <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/more-more-and-more-ado-about-bill-c-10.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Young People Fucking<\/a><\/i> \u2014 which, despite the title, isn\u2019t really any racier than a lot of R-rated American movies.  The film opened across Canada last Friday and was #11 at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tribute.ca\/movies\/boxoffice.asp\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">the Canadian box office<\/a>, grossing $103,544 \u2014 right behind <i>What Happens in Vegas<\/i> and just ahead of <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/04\/hes-got-lot-to-offer-but-hes-not-funny.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Forgetting Sarah Marshall<\/a><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Two weeks before the film opened, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/vancouversun\/news\/arts\/story.html?id=7662540b-e49c-42be-803c-4714677dc14a\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">CanWest News Service<\/a> reported that Conservative MPs had avoided a special screening of the film that had been arranged for the very politicians who have been tossing this film\u2019s title around as they debate Bill C-10:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The filmmakers behind the movie with the naughty title say it has a message the Conservative Party would approve \u2014 if they would only come and see it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur generation makes an effort to separate love and sex,\u201d says Martin Gero, the director of the romantic comedy Young People F\u2014ing. \u201cThey\u2019re all trying to do this thing, and they\u2019re all failing miserably . . . we\u2019re saying, \u2018Listen, people our age. This is really hard to do without being emotionally involved.'\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In an interview with the <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.straight.com\/article-149295\/young-and-reckless\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Georgia Straight<\/a><\/i>, Gero says the title was originally just a working title \u2014 but then it stuck:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIt was the first thing we came up with on the script, \u2019cause it spoke to the type of attack we wanted to put on the film: we wanted to be frank and honest and uncensored, basically,\u201d he says in a downtown Vancouver hotel. \u201cThe title spoke to the type of language we wanted to use, the type of unblinking feel we wanted the film to have, and we never dreamed that it would be on the final print of the movie.\u2026To their credit, our distributors kind of were like, \u2018You know what? I think the title really fits if we can figure out how to get away with it.\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>The title has put marketers in awkward situations (it\u2019s being called YPF in the U.K. and U.S.). But over tea at a Commercial Drive caf\u00e9, actor Sonja Bennett, who won a Vancouver Film Critics Circle award for her performance in the film, points out that Canadian films need whatever attention they can get. \u201cI think that Martin and [cowriter] Aaron [Abrams] are really smart, and the producers are really smart, because most Canadian movies\u2014this one included\u2014have such small budgets. We don\u2019t have the budgets to publicize the way American films do. You gotta pull out whatever you can, and if having a catchy title creates buzz around the film and gets people to go see it, that\u2019s fantastic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s easy to misinterpret the tone of the title, which, in fact, is tongue-in-cheek. Abrams, who stars as a guy whose best female friend proposes fuck-buddy sex, explains that the actual movie thwarts expectations. \u201cIt\u2019s not like we\u2019re naive to what the title is. It\u2019s a sensational, attention-grabbing thing.\u2026People come in and either expect something hard-core and edgy or expect something very juvenile. But what I like about that turn is that they\u2019re always surprised by what they get, because it\u2019s neither of those things.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Alas, of course, the title has also attracted the <i>wrong<\/i> kind of attention from politicians and activists who aren\u2019t inclined to see it and have their expectations thwarted in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>The <i>Straight<\/i> also notes that one of the top-grossing Canadian films of all time \u2014 i.e. <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/bon-cop-bad-cop-spinning-numbers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Porky\u2019s<\/a><\/i> (1982) \u2014 was a sex comedy, and it gets this delightful quote from Bennett: \u201cSo often Canadian movies are dark, and it\u2019s just really wonderful to be involved in a Canadian film that doesn\u2019t have any incest or hockey in it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Finally, the mighty Roger Ebert has offered his own two bits on the brouhaha, first commenting on <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.suntimes.com\/ebert\/2008\/06\/the_movie_named_fword.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">the pros and cons<\/a> of the f-word\u2019s increasing acceptability, and then <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.suntimes.com\/ebert\/2008\/06\/ok_heres_the_fing_review.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">reviewing the film<\/a> itself.  He gives it three stars.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and minor fact-check:  The film is not \u201cX-rated\u201d, though Ebert says it is in one of his posts.  In fact, the film currently has no American rating whatsoever, and in Canada, it is rated 18-A in most provinces but 16-A in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rcq.qc.ca\/RCQ212AfficherFicheTech.asp?intNoFilm=310427&amp;StrContexte=Recherche&amp;strPageOrigine=RCQ211RechercherFilm.asp&amp;strNomForm=frmRCQ211RechercherFilm&amp;StrNomChamps=txtPageSuivante&amp;intNoPage=0\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Quebec<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>JUN 19 UPDATE:  <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.variety.com\/article\/VR1117987724.html?categoryid=1043&amp;cs=1\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Variety<\/a><\/i> now has its own story on the Senate\u2019s proposed amendments to Bill C-10.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Canadian Press reports that the Senate is going to amend the controversial bits of Bill C-10 \u2014 that is, the bits that would allow the government to deny tax credits to Canadian films and TV shows if they contradict certain as-yet-undefined moral or social standards \u2014 even though the bill has already been approved [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1116,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-807","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Bill C-10 and the f-word movie, yet again.<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The Canadian Press reports that the Senate is going to amend the controversial bits of Bill C-10 -- that is, the bits that would allow the government to\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/06\/bill-c-10-and-the-f-word-movie-yet-again.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Bill C-10 and the f-word movie, yet again.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The Canadian Press reports that the Senate is going to amend the controversial bits of Bill C-10 -- that is, the bits that would allow the government to\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2008\/06\/bill-c-10-and-the-f-word-movie-yet-again.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"FilmChat\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2008-06-18T12:19:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/SFnzcTpV93I\/AAAAAAAABqU\/SnBZQ_bxOvI\/s400\/youngpeoplefucking3-a.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Peter T. 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