{"id":82,"date":"2010-03-17T09:06:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-17T09:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2010\/03\/toy-story-3-and-its-place-in-pixars-legacy\/"},"modified":"2010-03-17T09:06:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-17T09:06:00","slug":"toy-story-3-and-its-place-in-pixars-legacy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2010\/03\/toy-story-3-and-its-place-in-pixars-legacy.html","title":{"rendered":"Toy Story 3 and its place in Pixar&#8217;s legacy."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/S6EZ1TCgq8I\/AAAAAAAADYM\/-lrmZk3Vb4k\/s1600-h\/toystory3-teaser.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;width: 400px;height: 219px\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/S6EZ1TCgq8I\/AAAAAAAADYM\/-lrmZk3Vb4k\/s400\/toystory3-teaser.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><br><span style=\"font-family: georgia\">A rough cut of <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/technology-time-capsules-redux.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Toy Story<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/newsbites-pixar-edition.html#2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a><\/i> was shown at the ShoWest event in Las Vegas yesterday, and the buzz so far is pretty ecstatic \u2014 especially with regard to the film\u2019s final 30 minutes, which, as Jeffrey Overstreet has noted, is a nice change of pace from the last few Pixar films, where everyone agreed that the <i>first<\/i> 30 minutes were really good but opinions varied on the remainder of those stories.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cinemablend.com\/new\/ShoWest-Toy-Story-3-Is-A-Guaranteed-New-Hit-For-Pixar-17590.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Katey Rich<\/a> at CinemaBlend.com does have one question, though, about this film and its place in Pixar\u2019s filmography:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The print of the film we saw was not finished, and it\u2019s likely that there will be some tweaks before the June 18 release. But when we get there I think we\u2019ll be having a conversation about the Pixar legacy, about how groundbreaking their work has become in the last few years and whether or not revisiting the movie where it all began was the right step for a company that, at its best, can legitimately be called avant garde. As much as I loved seeing all the toys again, I\u2019m not 100% sure that this adventure\u2013 as entertaining and lovely as it was\u2013 was the right one for Pixar at this moment. <i>Toy Story 3<\/i> takes many big risks, and twists your heart around as much as <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/walle-watchmen-very-very-funny.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wall-E<\/a><\/i> and <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/newsbites-comics-and-cartoons-edition.html#4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Up<\/a><\/i>, but at times it felt far safer than what we\u2019ve come to expect from them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This seems like as good a time as any to dust off a brief note on Pixar\u2019s recent history that I posted at the Arts &amp; Faith discussion board in June of last year, when <i>Up<\/i> was only a few weeks old:<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 \u2013 \u2013<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theamericanscene.com\/2009\/06\/08\/must-pixar-be-so-kid-friendly\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Peter Suderman<\/a> has openly wondered if Pixar will ever ditch the kiddie elements and make a movie that targets adults, full stop. I don\u2019t think this is likely to happen, partly because Andrew Stanton has already <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/newsbites-sci-fi-and-fantasy-edition.html#4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">gone on record<\/a> to the effect that Pixar films are meant to be \u201cfamily films\u201d, and therefore any grown-up films developed at Pixar (such as Stanton\u2019s own <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/newsbites-fantasy-edition.html#1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Carter of Mars<\/a><\/i>, or Brad Bird\u2019s <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/newsbites-heroes-and-comics-edition.html#2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">1906<\/a><\/i>) will be released by Disney under one of its other labels.<\/p>\n<p>But another reason I don\u2019t think it is likely to happen is because of the upcoming roster listed near the top of this thread: of the four films that Pixar currently has in development, three are sequels to some of their kiddier hits (<i>Toy Story 3<\/i>, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/newsbites-comics-and-cartoons-edition.html#11\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cars 2<\/a><\/i>, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/newsbites-comics-and-cartoons-edition.html#5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Monsters Inc. 2<\/a><\/i>), and one is being billed as Pixar\u2019s \u201cfirst fairy tale\u201d (<i>The Bear and the Bow<\/i>). These films might very well rise above mere kids\u2019 fare, as Pixar\u2019s earliest films did, but they do seem to be starting and staying within that realm (as opposed to some of Pixar\u2019s more recent films, which, as Suderman suggests, have started as grown-up projects and then had kiddie elements \u201cgrafted on\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Thinking about this further, it occurs to me that the last three Pixar films \u2014 <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/oscar-nominations-my-own-two-bits.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ratatouille<\/a><\/i>, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/newsbites-box-office-trivia-edition.html#2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">WALL-E<\/a><\/i> and <i>Up<\/i> \u2014 were probably all put into production at a time when Pixar had every reason to believe that it would no longer be tied to Disney\u2019s corporate business plan.<\/p>\n<p>The original contract between Disney and Pixar (which gave Disney full ownership of the characters created under that contract) expired with <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/11\/newsbites-departed-babel-burning.html#5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cars<\/a><\/i>, and there was a famous period of a few years there where Steve Jobs was making a lot of noise about taking Pixar\u2019s future films to some <i>other<\/i> distributor; in return, Disney created Circle 7, a whole new animation department that existed purely to create sequels to Pixar films, sequels that would presumably have been sub-par and would presumably have competed with the films that Pixar made independently.<\/p>\n<p>It is not too hard to imagine that the folks at Pixar decided to \u201craise the bar\u201d a little with their independent films, and so <i>Ratatouille<\/i>, <i>WALL-E<\/i> (the first story reel of which was <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wall-e#Story\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">created in 2003<\/a>) and <i>Up<\/i> (the writing of which <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Up_(2009_film)\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">began in 2004<\/a>) aimed higher \u2014 though they still kept enough \u201ckiddie elements\u201d so as not to lose their core audience.<\/p>\n<p>But then, in January 2006, only five months before the release of <i>Cars<\/i>, Disney and Pixar shocked everyone (including, it is said, many people at Pixar itself) by announcing that Disney had not only renewed its contract with Pixar \u2014 rather, Disney had actually <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/01\/newsbites-pixar-paradise-hoodwinked.html#1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>bought<\/i> Pixar<\/a> outright. Yes, one of the terms of the deal was that Steve Jobs took a place on the Disney board of directors, and that John Lasseter took charge of Disney\u2019s homegrown feature animation (thus resulting in \u201cPixar lite\u201d films like <i><a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/newsbites-comics-and-cartoons-edition.html#7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bolt<\/a><\/i>). But what sort of films did Pixar <i>itself<\/i> decide to make after that?<\/p>\n<p>Well, for one thing, Disney <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2006\/01\/disney-pulls-plug-on-toy-story-3.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">shut down Circle 7<\/a>, which had been working on <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2005\/06\/newsbites-galore.html#3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a <i>Toy Story 3<\/i><\/a> \u2026 and then Pixar announced that it was <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2007\/02\/toy-story-3-coming-in-2009.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making <i>Toy Story 3<\/i><\/a> itself. And then Pixar announced it was <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2008\/04\/newsbites-silent-errol-disney-w-caspian.html#3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making <i>Cars 2<\/i><\/a>. And now Pixar has announced it is <a href=\"http:\/\/filmchatblog.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/newsbites-pixar-edition.html#1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making <i>Monsters<\/i><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/jimhillmedia.com\/blogs\/jim_hill\/archive\/2009\/07\/31\/is-disney-pixar-finally-getting-serious-about-monsters-inc-2-and-the-tiger-king.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Inc. 2<\/a>. (And somewhere in there, Pixar has decided to produce its first-ever \u201cfairy tale\u201d.) So Pixar is now doing to its earlier films what Disney would have done with or without Pixar.<\/p>\n<p>We can only imagine what stories Pixar would have told if they had allowed their Disney contract to lapse and had sailed ahead into full-blown independence. But as it stands right now, stories with primarily grown-up themes seem to be taking a back-seat to the kiddie fare.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A rough cut of Toy Story 3 was shown at the ShoWest event in Las Vegas yesterday, and the buzz so far is pretty ecstatic \u2014 especially with regard to the film\u2019s final 30 minutes, which, as Jeffrey Overstreet has noted, is a nice change of pace from the last few Pixar films, where everyone [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1116,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-82","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Toy Story 3 and its place in Pixar&#039;s legacy.<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A rough cut of Toy Story 3 was shown at the ShoWest event in Las Vegas yesterday, and the buzz so far is pretty ecstatic -- especially with regard to the\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2010\/03\/toy-story-3-and-its-place-in-pixars-legacy.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Toy Story 3 and its place in Pixar&#039;s legacy.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"A rough cut of Toy Story 3 was shown at the ShoWest event in Las Vegas yesterday, and the buzz so far is pretty ecstatic -- especially with regard to the\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/filmchat\/2010\/03\/toy-story-3-and-its-place-in-pixars-legacy.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"FilmChat\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2010-03-17T09:06:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_MwnH1kpbPRM\/S6EZ1TCgq8I\/AAAAAAAADYM\/-lrmZk3Vb4k\/s400\/toystory3-teaser.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Peter T. 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