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Christianity Today<\/em> is scared<\/a>\u00a0of Tony, Peggy and Bart Campolo<\/strong> and wants to help evangelicals brainwash their children more effectively so they won\u2019t turn out like Bart.<\/p>\n The \u201cmethod\u201d is always the same. Bart isn\u2019t a Christian anymore so we need to blame his parents (while pretending not to) and improve the way we indoctrinate our kids lest they turn out like Bart or worse yet, like Frank Schaeffer.<\/p>\n To do that the first thing we have to do is lie about them, dismiss the backsliders and make sure everyone avoids their books too, while praying for them, of course.<\/p>\n Christianity Today<\/em> postures as a forward thinking publication. They are not. They\u2019re the disgusting reactionaries of Bob Jones ilk, just dressed better.<\/p>\n Take the letter the CT editor wrote to President Obama<\/a> asking to be exempted from laws to protect gay men and women from discrimination. And now it\u2019s war (in the name of \u201clove\u201d of course) on Bart Campolo and other people who don\u2019t drink the evangelical Cool-Aid.<\/p>\n So CT\u00a0just published what is really an attack on Peggy, Tony and Bart Campolo in the usual paranoid victimhood-style of the magazine. Shorthand \u201cthey\u201d are after your children!<\/p>\n Here\u2019s the article in full with\u00a0my comments\/reactions\/views, in BOLD Italics<\/em> between the paragraphs. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n Recently, I was reading some information on the American Humanist Association related to the controversy surrounding their leading poll on The Pledge of Allegiance<\/a>. Somewhere in that reading, I came across the name \u201cBart Campolo.\u201d<\/p>\n If the name sounds familiar to you, it should. His father, Tony Campolo is a prominent progressive evangelical. The last I knew, Bart had followed his dad and was preaching and practicing a left-leaning, though evangelical faith.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n CT has no problem with evangelical nepotism. The only other groups that rope in kids as \u201cnormal\u201d are mafia families and the British Royals. Where\u2019s the CT piece on the tragedy of kids being groomed for ministry? Where\u2019s the CT piece on the flakes that get the \u201ccall\u201d to follow their parents into the ever-expanding rip-off industry of American big time evangelical religion? Why do kids follow their parents into \u201cministry?\u201d Because they are deprived of real world experiences by people like the editors of CT who build walls of falsehood around them.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n But after I Googled his name, I found he didn\u2019t seem to be a part of any Christian ministry, despite having helped found several. He has not blogged at Sojourners in over three years<\/a>. His personal website is gone<\/a>. Mission Year, which he helped to start, references him as a co-founder<\/a>, but he is nowhere among those listed as currently serving with the ministry.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Wow! Bart dropped out of the private evangelical subculture long ago, Hmmm\u2026 turns out he wasn\u2019t really one of us! If he had been real he\u2019d be blogging and doing all those things we do to raise money 24\/7, the real \u201cmark of the Christian.\u201d But he snubbed us real Americans and real evangelicals by doing his own thing long ago, maybe he never really was one of us!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n See what happens if you drop out and don\u2019t stick with the program? You have to remain safely in the sub-culture talking 24\/7 to like minded brain-damaged fellow believers or you\u2019ll get notions\u2026 and before you know it you are a\u2026 HUMANIST!!! So listen up all you editors of\u00a0reliably\u00a0same\/same publications: next time\u00a0someone drops out see the danger signals! They might even start thinking for themselves!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n While his Wikipedia page<\/a> only mentions his involvement in Christian causes, I knew I had read about a secular connection. But, just a few clicks down I saw he is the Humanist chaplain<\/a> at the University of Southern California and a speaker for the Secular Student Alliance<\/a> (SSA).<\/p>\n On the USC web page, it explains:<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n \u201cOver the course of his ministry career, Bart gradually transitioned from Christianity to secular humanism. As the first Humanist Chaplain at USC, he is committed to developing a community that offers regular inspiration, pastoral care, supportive fellowship and service opportunities to students, faculty, staff members and local families and individuals exploring or actively pursuing secular goodness as a way of life.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Perhaps this is well known in progressive circles, but it was news to me. It was particularly disappointing to me since I\u2019ve talked to Bart (though I doubt he remembers our short conversation), he was encouraging to me, I love the idea of Mission Year, and, like so many evangelicals, his father was an influence on my life and ministry.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n It was news to you because you live in a blinkered ghetto. I have news for CT: there is a real world out here. And out here no one has ever heard of you. You are looking through the wrong end of the\u00a0telescope.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n I have to confess, the immediate reaction I had was that this is why progressive evangelicalism and particularly mainline Protestantism (Campolo straddled both) can be dead ends, often failing to keep the next generation. And, there is some statistical support for that reaction (at least for mainliners).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n See! All that progressive truth is deadly! Time to take the children to the Creation Museum\u2013 again! You just need to be more careful to keep science books out of the home! And better dis-invite that gay uncle who goes to a United Methodist church from Thanksgiving! These are dangerous times! <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n In fact the\u00a0editors\u00a0of Christianity Today actually held a heresy trial of\u00a0Tony (Bart\u2019s dangerously progressive father) for the late great idiot Bill Bright! (No kidding) because Bill said Tony was a Socialist, what WITH ALL HIS TALK ABOUT THE POOR AND ALL\u2026 Tony is hated<\/a> by you guys. Period. Admit it!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n According to the Faith and Families project published last year<\/a>, only a minority of the children of mainliners are mainliners, whereas a strong majority of evangelical parents end up with evangelical children.<\/p>\n Then, I started to reconsider.<\/p>\n I remembered Frank Schaeffer<\/a>, son of the late Francis Schaeffer<\/a>. If robust evangelicalism guaranteed continuing fidelity, the younger Schaeffer would not be writing odd books about his mother\u2019s sex life<\/a> and describing his own spiritual life as an atheist who believes in God<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Right, but what is even stranger is that if you ever read my books, including my New York Times bestsellers like Keeping Faith<\/a>, you\u2019d find that actually most of my writing is about subjects other than faith issues. For instance take my trilogy about being a Marine\u2019s parent in time of war that landed me on Oprah, after Laura Bush read a passage out of one of my \u201codd\u201d books on Meet the Press. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Then again since no\u00a0Pulitzer\u00a0Prize winners\u00a0are reviewing anything by an editor at CT in the Washington Post as Jane Smiley reviewed one of my odd books<\/a>, maybe you guys are just jealous that people like Tony Campolo, Bart and me have real jobs instead of spending lifetimes sucking the on that big profitable and tax-deductible evangelical mammary gland.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n And, let\u2019s be honest, I could list a hundred others, though perhaps few as prominent as Schaeffer and Campolo. And, we don\u2019t really have statistics for progressive evangelicals, partly because there are not that many, so we don\u2019t know for sure if they will track like mainliners.<\/p>\n So, I don\u2019t think my first reaction was a fair reaction, and I shared it because I imagine that many readers might have a similar reaction, based on, \u201cThat would not happen to me because I\u2019m not like them\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Yes, but you still got to say it then like all you weasel-word evangelicals like \u201cI\u2019m praying for you\u201d used as a put down and implied it\u2019s Tony and Peggy Campolo\u2019s fault\u2013 then you got to pretend you didn\u2019t.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n So while I don\u2019t want to let mainline Protestantism off the statistical hook (you can\u2019t\u2014it\u2019s just math), I don\u2019t know Bart and I\u2019ve not seen his comments on his journey, therefore I should not make definitive conclusions about his journey. Nor should you.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n The reason so many \u201cmain-line\u201d kids feel free TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES IS THAT THEY ARE ENCOURAGED TO THINK. They have not been lied to from birth by certainty addicts.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Religious fundamentalists of all religious persuasions can\u2019t help themselves because they are certainty addicts. They are literally mentally ill. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n They have remodeled their brains with false certainties and because these certainties are false and fly in the face of all evidence, thus they wallow in paranoid victimhood bitterness against reality itself. Someone is OUT TO GET OUR KIDS!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Their arguments are circular. They goes like this: The Bible (or Koran, Torah, what have you) says it\u2019s true and so it is true because the Bible says so. This way lies madness. It is the\u00a0madness\u00a0of the CT thought police sniffing in other people\u2019s\u00a0underwear\u00a0drawers\u00a0like back alley perverts while looking for\u00a0apostasy. \u00a0But\u00a0what\u00a0turns them on is denouncing\u00a0apostasy. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n If they had it their way they would\u00a0behead people on YouTube like the ISIS fanatics, only these CT folks are soft cowards. But their beliefs are more to do with ISIS than with Jesus. The real evangelical motto is \u201cGod hates you and so do I.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Declarations are made about God. He loves you or he hates you. He\u2019ll send you to hell, or won\u2019t. Jesus is love or coming back as judge. God wants this or that for your life. Jesus \u201csays\u201d this or that or Jesus \u201cwants\u201d that. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Sometimes Jesus even wants us to not speak to family members who\u00a0backslide so we won\u2019t be tainted!\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n However, we do know that Bart Campolo is now serving as a Humanist chaplain and speaking at Secular Student Alliance conferences designed to gather a \u201ccommunity of atheists, agnostics, and nonbelievers.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n In other words, he\u2019s gone public with his new views.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n So now it is time to attack him, make an example of him lest anyone else follow!\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n As such, I think it might be good for us to consider a bit about what that means\u2014not for him, but for us (and for me).<\/p>\n So, once we get past the recriminations (see above) it\u2019s best to pause and consider some implications. As such, let me suggest five things to consider as we think about Bart Campolo\u2019s de-conversion.<\/p>\n First, and perhaps this is personal, I need to think about my own family.<\/strong><\/p>\n Do my children have a faith of their own? In this extremely informative and compelling talk<\/a> Bart gave to earlier this year to the SSA Annual Conference, he is quite clear that he embraced a Christian community<\/em>, but not the Christian faith<\/em>.<\/p>\n As parents, we need to work to ensure our children have a relationship with Jesus, not just a desire to be part of a loving community doing good. In other words, we need to ask, are we discipling or merely socializing our children in church?<\/p>\n I\u2019d ask that of fundamentalists, mainline Protestants, progressive evangelicalism, and, yes, conservative evangelicalism.<\/p>\n But, most importantly, I\u2019d ask that of your (and my) tradition\u2014are we producing disciples in the next generation?<\/p>\n Will the children of your faith tradition flourish in the faith you pass on to them?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n So let\u2019s split from any denomination or church that doesn\u2019t guarantee my kids will follow me! In fact better stay home because you can\u2019t trust those churches! It\u2019s their fault too. Go church shopping! Find a place as paranoid as you are about \u201closing\u201d you kids, that will do the job! Be on the lookout for anything less than 100 percent! Sniff out weakness and apostasy in its infancy!\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Third, remember that love draws in people.<\/strong><\/p>\n Ironically and importantly, Bart stresses that what led him to identify as a Christian was the love he saw between the members of the youth group he attended. He noticed individuals from all the different high school cliques came together at this church.<\/p>\n Indeed.<\/p>\n This should be characteristic of every Christian ministry and church. Loving people is often the first step<\/a> in seeing them understand and accept the gospel. It can\u2019t end there, but even Bart acknowledged that it started there.<\/p>\n In other words, Bart is right\u2014community matters\u2014and he is also right that it is not enough.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n So we love him and love Frank Schaeffer and the \u201ctoo many to count\u201d dropouts so much that from time to time we fire off a snide little lying article like this in the NAME OF LOVE.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Fourth, after you have watched Bart\u2019s presentation, pray for him.<\/strong><\/p>\n Based on his words in this presentation, I don\u2019t think he would mind. Though he has obviously moved on, he was very gracious toward evangelicals in his presentation\u2014in an environment where it would be easy to do otherwise.<\/p>\n I\u2019m thankful for that graciousness and I prayed for him after I watched the video. I hope you will as well.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n You smarmy prick! Ah yes, you must pray for him WHILE lynching him!\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Fifth and finally, I want to pray for Tony Campolo and to take a moment to be thankful for him.<\/strong><\/p>\n When your children leave the faith, it\u2019s hard to not take it personally, but Tony has always been a gracious man, committed to his faith and ideals. (I\u2019ve never met Peggy, his wife, but was deeply influenced by Tony early in my ministry.) If there was ever a person who lived what he believed it was Tony Campolo.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Yeah, pray for Tony too! He needs friends like you!\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Over 20 years ago, I spent a week with him in Philadelphia learning how to do ministry in the inner city. He was gracious and clearly loved people. He prayed with me and encouraged me to love Jesus deeply and care for people faithfully. From what I can tell, we\u2019ve moved apart theologically in some ways, but I will always be grateful for his impact on my life.<\/p>\n And, the fact that his son left the faith does not necessarily relate to Tony and Peggy\u2019s faith, any more than so many other children\u2019s departure was because of their parents.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n That\u2019s right more weasel words: \u201cthe fact that his son left the faith does not necessarily relate to Tony and Peggy\u2019s faith\u2026\u201d <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n The operative words are \u201cnot necessarily relate.\u201d Of course that way you can say \u201cI never said they failed I said \u201cnot necessarily!\u201d And Christianity Today magazine is not necessarily a self serving little community of\u00a0close minded\u00a0smarmy,\u00a0unctuous bigots, either!\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n I imagine that Bart Campolo\u2019s name will make his deconversion significant to many.<\/p>\n My hope is that evangelicals (like me) won\u2019t ignore it (hence, this blog), but will take wise steps so as, to the degree we can, we can strengthen the faith in our own children.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Take wise steps now! First, resubscribe to our magazine so we can keep defending truth! Second, pound Jesus into the tykes! Third, make sure you aviod the likes of Bart and Frank, and come to think of it, after you pray for Tony and Peggy\u2013 avoid them too! I mean what\u2019s next? Peggy may even start supporting GAY people!!!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n \u00a0They need to learn to do what we at CT do: hide the reality we serve, for instance that we\u2019re tied to the corrupt Billy Graham family. Franklin pays himself a million-plus a year out of funds raised to help poor people. That\u00a0is NOT\u00a0Billy\u2019s fault because we like his theology. See? \u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n You\u2019ll see no article on linking Billy Graham to Franklin\u2019s rip-off machine at at CT! All you\u2019ll find is more BS about the End Times as we spew the Graham nonsense for profit.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n HERE\u2019S the bottom line folks! <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Most of our CT readers are pastors! Do you guys realize that your livelihoods depend on hoodwinking the next generation!? Where would Franklin be without his donors?\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n I mean this is serious! People like Bart and Frank Schaeffer don\u2019t go to your churches or send money to Franklin or to us! NOW THAT is a THREAT! If they are right, how do we earn a living?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n I\u2019m not the national figure that Tony Campolo is, but my children are in the spotlight because I am in, to some degree, a spotlight. And, if you are a pastor, so are your children. Actually, if you are a Christian, yours are too in many ways.<\/p>\n Answer the hard questions from your kids, disciple your family, and humbly realize that, ultimately, your children can and will make their own decisions about faith one day.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n In my new book I answer the CT\/evangelical worship of an angry \u201cgod\u201d that leads to the sort of smarmy rejection\u00a0they direct at people like Peggy, Tony and Bart Campolo. I offer an alternative they are afraid of. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n But in a strange twist I\u2019m getting tons of email from hundreds of readers saying the book has not just brought them closer to God but is the first book that a child or\u00a0friend\u00a0has read that made them\u00a0reconsider\u00a0their atheism.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Brian McLaren, Peggy Campolo and I\u00a0were just speaking at a seminar supporting gay rights\u00a0(at the Open Door Community Church in Little Rock) last weekend. Brian told\u00a0me that he thinks I should say that my new book is for people who want to still believe in God\u2013 in spite of their evangelical backgrounds. He said it\u2019s also a book\u00a0to\u00a0give to family members who have rejected their faiths based on what they encountered from the likes of the\u00a0people who run outfits like Christianity Today.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Evangelical conservatives\u00a0are really just\u00a0worshipers\u00a0of\u00a0a book\u2013the Bible. They follow that book, not God. This is why they are so mean and two-faced. This is why people like me sometimes write a book asking the rejected to\u00a0consider\u00a0the possibility that God has not rejected them no matter what the gatekeepers of the evangelical money machine say.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n But there is another way to see Jesus as I write in my\u00a0odd: new book<\/a>\u00a0(WHY I AM AN ATHEIST WHO BELIEVES IN GOD:\u00a0How to give love, create beauty and find peace<\/a>)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Here\u2019s an excerpt pointing to the God the CT editors and their like are afraid of.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The idea of atonement\u2014Jesus \u201cdying for our sins\u201d as if to satisfy God\u2014is the opposite of evolutionary truth. Evolution\u00a0doesn\u2019t\u00a0\u00a0demand justice; it demands life. In evolution the result of suffering,\u00a0killing, extinctions, death and chaos is the learning curve undertaken by genes that pass on knowledge in an effort to survive. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n No one from the first primitive microorganism to Jesus has died to \u201csatisfy\u201d an angry God.<\/strong><\/em> \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n If there is a Creator by whatever name, then our very existence puts that Creator on the side of life. The evolutionary method is not about changes in life forms bent on dying. Why would the Creator be the enemy of his, her, or its own creation and anything or anyone in it, including a divine son? Nature may be many things but it is not petty, vindictive and stupid. So why should we think God is?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Can you imagine me consigning my beloved granddaughter Lucy to oblivion because she had wrong ideas about me? Can you imagine me burning her forever because she\u00a0didn\u2019t\u00a0believe in me, forgot\u00a0my name, called me the wrong name, thought I had six arms, believed she had three or six or ten grandfathers, or brought me fruit when I\u2019d asked for lamb? And even if a grandchild killed me and I could judge her or him from the grave, do you imagine that I\u2019d demand they burn for eternity? I am not a good man and yet can you imagine anything<\/em> that would cut Amanda, Ben, Lucy and Jack off from my love?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n The trouble is that the CT editors serve a mean god.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n That\u2019s why loving and wonderful people like\u00a0Peggy, Tony and Bart\u00a0Campolo make the evangelical Bible-worshipers\u00a0nervous. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n When you serve a pretend \u201cbiblical\u201d god who\u00a0burns\u00a0people forever for wrong theology then just lying about them\u00a0in the name of \u201clove\u201d comes naturally. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n The real reason the CT editors don\u2019t like humanists like Bart, is that most humanists are better Christians than they are.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Frank Schaeffer<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0is a writer. His latest book \u2014WHY I AM AN ATHEIST WHO BELIEVES IN GOD:<\/strong>\u00a0How to give love, create beauty and find peace<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n Christianity Today is scared\u00a0of Tony, Peggy and Bart Campolo and wants to help evangelicals brainwash their children more effectively so they won\u2019t turn out like Bart. The \u201cmethod\u201d is always the same. Bart isn\u2019t a Christian anymore so we need to blame his parents (while pretending not to) and improve the way we indoctrinate our […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1161,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,955,294,8,7,228],"tags":[1027,1029,99,1795,48,20,22,9,100,1028,5,1026,1793,501],"class_list":["post-5065","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-children","category-family-2","category-parenting","category-politics","category-religion","category-sex","tag-bart-campolo","tag-beliefs","tag-billy-graham","tag-children","tag-christianity-today-magazine","tag-evangelicals","tag-faith","tag-frank-schaeffer","tag-franklin-graham","tag-humanism","tag-jesus","tag-peggy-campolo","tag-religion","tag-tony-campolo"],"yoast_head":"\n\nDeconversion: Some Thoughts on Bart Campolo\u2019s Departure from Christianity<\/a><\/h2>\n
Bart Campolo\u2019s departure from Christianity\u2013some reflections about faith and (our) families. |<\/div>\nBy Ed Stetzer<\/div>\n\n![\"Deconversion:](\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/images\/48597.png?w=620\" "\\"Deconversion:")
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As parents, we need to work to ensure our children have a relationship with Jesus.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\nTranslation: Tony Campolo somehow failed to sufficiently indoctrinate his son. The fault isn\u2019t stupid religion the fault is bad parents. Just like when evangelicals have gay kids. What did they do wrong!?<\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n\n
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Will the children of your faith tradition flourish in the faith you pass on to them?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\nTranslation: Home school them all! Avoid the big bad world! Circle the wagons! <\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\nLet\u2019s make sure we are indoctrinating kids with lies more effectively. <\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAbove all avoid paradox and stick to the sort of crap we sell 24\/7 at CT by promoting nonsense like Billy Graham\u2019s claims that Jesus is on the way back\u2013NOW! Scare them shitless is what we do, and it\u2019s good for fundraising too!<\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n\n
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