{"id":13230,"date":"2018-08-07T06:00:34","date_gmt":"2018-08-07T10:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/?p=13230"},"modified":"2018-08-06T21:00:52","modified_gmt":"2018-08-07T01:00:52","slug":"13230-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/13230-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Most Profoundly Religious Statement of All: &#8220;I Don&#8217;t Know&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Let me tell you here first, \u201ctrust in God\u201d has never floated my boat as a viable answer to religious questions.\u00a0<\/strong>From a student notebook<\/p>\n<p>On the day after Christmas 2004, the third strongest earthquake ever measured, deep under the Indian Ocean, caused a tsunami that resulted in the deaths of close to 250,000 people. The vast majority of those who lost their lives were among the poorest people on the planet, the very people who are often most vulnerable to natural disasters. Two months later, Ted Honey, a vicar in the Church of England with twenty years of experience as a priest, gave a Ted Talk that he introduced as follows:<\/p>\n<p><strong>On December 26th last year, just two months ago,<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"163000\">that underwater earthquake triggered the tsunami.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"168000\">And two weeks later, Sunday morning, 9th of January,<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"173000\">I found myself standing in front of my congregation \u2014<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"176000\">intelligent, well-meaning, mostly thoughtful Christian people \u2014<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"182000\">and I needed to express, on their behalf, our feelings and our questions.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"190000\">I had my own personal responses, but I also have a public role,<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"197000\">and something needed to be said.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"199000\">And this is what I said.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Honey: Why would God create a tsunami?\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.ted.com\/talks\/tom_honey_why_would_god_create_a_tsunami\" width=\"500\" height=\"376\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Honey\u2019s talk is one of the most honest\u2014hence disturbing\u2014attempts to grapple from a faith perspective with the problem of natural evil I\u2019ve ever encountered. Among other things, he concludes that he can no longer believe in the sort of traditional God that he has been implicitly supporting and selling to others for most of his adult life. Belief in a good God who oversees the universe with power and love, the one that traditional Christian liturgies and hymns worship and praise, no longer seems possible in the face of disasters such as the tsunami. There are phrases we should no longer say and songs we should no longer sing.<\/p>\n<p>Honey favorably quotes Ivan from Dostoevsky\u2019s\u00a0<em>The Brothers Karamazov<\/em>, who tells his brother Alyosha that in the face of human and natural evil his inclination is not to deny God\u2019s existence. His inclination instead is to \u201crespectfully return the ticket\u201d of membership in this world of violence and suffering to the God who oversees such a world. Such a God is not worth believing in.<\/p>\n<p>Toward the end of his talk, Honey speculates about alternative divine models, possibilities concerning God that both are compatible with suffering and violence and well outside the confines of conventional theism.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But what if God doesn\u2019t act? What if God doesn\u2019t do things at all?<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"863000\">What if God is in things?<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"867000\">The loving soul of the universe.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"870000\">An in<\/span><\/strong><strong>-dwelling compassionate presence, underpinning and sustaining all things.<span data-time=\"878000\">\u00a0What if God is in things?<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"882000\">In the infinitely complex network of relationships and connections that make up life.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"888000\">In the natural cycle of life and death,<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"892000\">the creation and destruction that must happen continuously.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"898000\">In the process of evolution.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>How exactly would that work, one might ask. Honey provides the only possible, and perhaps the best, answer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is God just another name for the universe,<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>with no independent existence at all?<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>I don\u2019t know. To what extent can we ascribe personality to God?\u00a0I don\u2019t know.<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>In the end, we have to say, \u201cI don\u2019t know.\u201d<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>If we knew, God would not be God . . .\u00a0<\/strong><strong>When I stood up to speak to my people about God and the tsunami,<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1109000\">I had no answers to offer them.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1113000\">No neat packages of faith, with Bible references to prove them.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1118000\">Only doubts and questioning and uncertainty.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1123000\">I had some suggestions to make \u2014<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1126000\">possible new ways of thinking about God.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1129000\">Ways that might allow us to go on, down a new and uncharted road.<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1135000\">But in the end, the only thing I could say for sure was, \u201cI don\u2019t know,\u201d<\/span><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong><span data-time=\"1143000\">and that just might be the most profoundly religious statement of all.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I showed Honey\u2019s talk to the students in my \u201cBeauty and Violence\u201d honors colloquium, a semester-long interdisciplinary exploration of precisely the questions Honey is raising. With half of the semester behind us, my students were used to grappling with these problems. Many (most) of them were from religious backgrounds, and found the colloquium both fascinating and disturbing. In a reflection in her intellectual notebook, one of my students\u2014a biology major on her way to med school\u2014described the impact Honey\u2019s Ted Talk had on her own continuing questions and struggles. Without edit, here\u2019s what she wrote:<\/p>\n<p><strong>The breath of fresh air this week was to finally hear a member of the church say \u201cI don\u2019t know\u201d like Rev. Tom Honey did in his Ted Talk from this week.\u00a0\u00a0For my entire life, I have faced members of various religious institutions try to stifle my questions, to give me answers that left me unsatisfied, and instructed me to simply \u201ctrust in God.\u201d Lemme tell you here first, \u201ctrust in God\u201d\u00a0<\/strong><strong>has never floated my boat as a viable answer to religious questions.\u00a0And to have a religious figure finally come forward and address the grievances of natural and human disasters, and not dismiss them or wrap an \u201ceverything happens for a reason\u201d bow around them is unbelievably refreshing. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>But also, it\u2019s kind of concerning. If a man of the church doesn\u2019t have confidence in his own teachings, how on earth am I supposed to ever get to that point? Suddenly, my hope to come out of this class with some slim part of my religious beliefs still firmly in tact seems to be withering away. Although I don\u2019t think that is what Reverend Honey was going for, the feeling in my gut that religion is not my\u00a0<em>thing<\/em>\u00a0is only growing stronger.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I distinctly remember my confirmation into my church when I was younger. We had to write a series of essays which covered a series of topics from reciting various facts about the Lutheran church to affirming our undeniable devotion to the church. I remember my one essay, about my \u201call in attitude\u201d I had about faith. I wrote it as this metaphor about how I was getting into a taxi cab, and I had no idea where I was going, but I had total faith in the driver that wherever the final destination was, it would be better than where I was now as long as I had total faith. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>And the pair of moms who were my church leaders thought it was just wonderful, I was saying all the right things, I was \u201cready\u201d to devote my life to my church. And there I was, fifteen years old, thinking to myself \u201cthis is a total lie.\u201d I had my fingers mentally crossed the entire time.\u00a0\u00a0I wanted to just get the hell out of that \u201ctaxi\u201d and run back to my house because the whole thing just felt so ridiculous. I had so much\u00a0<em>doubt<\/em>, so many parts of my faith that I would think to myself \u201chm this doesn\u2019t quite make sense\u201d. But I squashed that down because it seemed like the right thing to do. I wanted to go to heaven, right?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I have always doubted so much about my religious background, especially as a science major, but resisted the urge to question because it \u201cwasn\u2019t okay\u201d and, honestly, I wanted to keep my back covered in case the whole heaven thing panned out after all. But Honey called me out, just as our texts and conversations already have many times this semester. And this entire class has made me feel more comfortable than I have ever before in voicing these concerns and being able to say \u201cno I don\u2019t think that\u2019s right.\u201d That was something I never felt like I c<\/strong><strong>ould do in that Lutheran church<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Will this young lady be able to keep any part of the faith she was handed as a child in tact as she continues to give herself permission to challenge and question? I don\u2019t know. But this I do know\u2014the best foundation for a real and vibrant faith is questioning, doubt, revision, and the courage to keep doing all three.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/766\/2017\/03\/weil-waiting-for-god.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-9955\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/766\/2017\/03\/weil-waiting-for-god-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"150\" data-pagespeed-url-hash=\"2979820818\"><\/a>Simone Weil once wrote in a letter to a priest friend that has come to be known as her \u201cSpiritual Autobiography,\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>One can never wrestle enough with God if one does so out of pure regard for the truth. Christ likes us to prefer truth to him because, before being Christ, he is truth. If one turns aside from him to go toward the truth, one will not go far before falling into his arms.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let me tell you here first, \u201ctrust in God\u201d has never floated my boat as a viable answer to religious questions.\u00a0From a student notebook On the day after Christmas 2004, the third strongest earthquake ever measured, deep under the Indian Ocean, caused a tsunami that resulted in the deaths of close to 250,000 people. 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