{"id":13968,"date":"2018-10-18T06:00:18","date_gmt":"2018-10-18T10:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/?p=13968"},"modified":"2018-10-17T12:49:37","modified_gmt":"2018-10-17T16:49:37","slug":"does-a-christian-have-to-be-certain-about-anything","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/does-a-christian-have-to-be-certain-about-anything\/","title":{"rendered":"Does a Christian Have to be Certain About Anything?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>If we remembered that water takes its color from the vessel containing it, we would not interfere with the beliefs of others, but would perceive God in every form of belief.<\/strong>\u00a0James Carse<\/p>\n<p>Once a number of years ago, in the early days of a four-month sabbatical at an ecumenical institute, I presented an overview of my sabbatical project to my fellow institute resident scholars during our weekly scheduled seminar.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10722\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/766\/2017\/09\/Collegeville-2.jpg\" alt=\"Collegeville 2\" width=\"532\" height=\"459\" data-pagespeed-url-hash=\"2774628757\"><\/p>\n<p>In its early stages, my project was an intended exploration of the difficulty of trying to life a life of faith with integrity when the Being one has faith in is remarkably absent and silent most of the time. I don\u2019t remember much of the presentation (my project changed significantly over the following weeks), but I do recall that I said a lot about the importance of doubt, skepticism, and open-endedness in the life of faith. During the Q and A, a fellow resident who would turn out to be one of my best friends asked (with a bit of impatience, it seemed to me) \u201cVance, isn\u2019t there something that a person has to believe with certainty in order to be a Christian?\u201d I responded, in full philosopher mode, with another question: \u201cI don\u2019t know\u2014is there?\u201d I\u2019m still wondering.<\/p>\n<p>It is a natural human trait when attempting to build a belief system to draw boundaries, define terms, and clearly delineate standards of agreement or disagreement with others. This trait is particularly prevalent (and problematic) in the realm of faith and religion. In his essay \u201cHow Far We Are From God\u201d (from his essay collection\u00a0<em>Breakfast at the\u00a0<\/em>Victory), James Carse tells a story from his time as a student at Yale Divinity School that illustrates the problem.<\/p>\n<p>James and his fellow divinity student friend Bob are both Christians, but the details of their shared faith are frequently at odds. James was raised Presbyterian, and believes in a God he describes as \u201ca distant, faceless entity you had somehow to find on your own . . . like the sky over Long Island Sound: gray, vast, cold, full of veiled threat.\u201d James longs for an amazing, unmistakable experience of the divine, an experience that would let him know that he is one of the religious elite. \u201cI wanted to be special among the citizens of faith. The certainty I longed for would, I thought, give my voice a discernible authority\u2014a direct route to spiritual arrogance.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Bob\u2019s Episcopalian God, at least in James\u2019 estimation, was remarkably laid back and chummy. \u201cBob\u2019s God was always there to cheer you up . . . Bob didn\u2019t seem to have to look anywhere at all. His God was always checking in with you. So you must wait. And God\u2019s there, abounding in warmth.\u201d While approaching James\u2019 God required \u201cdedication, sacrifice, and vigilance,\u201d Bob\u2019s deity was apparently happy with worship according to the Book of Common Prayer on a semi-regular basis. Bob\u2019s God was an affable elderly aristocrat, \u201cabounding in genuine warmth,\u201d about as different from James\u2019 distant, threatening deity as one could imagine.<\/p>\n<p>Not surprisingly, believing in very different Gods led James and Bob to very different approaches to theology. James expects that everything should be reducible to logical and rigorous doctrine, if one expends sufficient time and effort; he professes that \u201cI was impatient with Bob\u2019s lack of theological earnestness.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cYou just can\u2019t attach your faith to any old theology,\u201d I argued. \u201cYou\u2019ve got to have a theological context that will help you understand what your faith means and how to live by it. In fact, whether we realize it or not, Bob, our faith is already full of theological assumptions.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To which Bob essentially responded, \u201cWhatever,\u201d or \u201cChill out.\u201d James believes that the Bible is to be taken at face value, while Bob\u2019s approach to Scripture is far less rigorous. So whose God is a closer reflection or representation of the real divine Being? James\u2019 or Bob\u2019s? Persons of faith, even ostensibly the same faith, have gone to battle\u2014often literally and with deadly results\u2014over just such disagreements.<\/p>\n<p>I am reminded frequently on this blog of how touchy persons of faith can be when their favored understanding of God gets challenged. For instance, I suggested earlier this week that persons of Christian faith share a great deal in common with persons of other faiths, even with persons of no faith at all.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad-container hidden-xs\">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-423433396-8\" class=\"DFPAdSlot ad-notice\" data-ux-module=\"components\/AdSlot\" data-ux-state=\"loaded\" data-google-query-id=\"CNaJ99K2g94CFcl3wQodsKUCBg\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/29966721\/PATH\/progressivechristian\/freelancechristianity_1__container__\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZopKaJFRVj\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/what-people-of-faith-and-atheists-can-agree-on\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">What People of Faith and Atheists Can Agree On<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cWhat People of Faith and Atheists Can Agree On\u201d \u2014 Freelance Christianity\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/what-people-of-faith-and-atheists-can-agree-on\/embed\/#?secret=71RMAkKjua#?secret=ZopKaJFRVj\" data-secret=\"ZopKaJFRVj\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>I wrote that an atheist could find much in the Sermon on the Mount in terms of guidance for living a moral life without committing to anything specific concerning God\u2019s existence and nature, closing the essay by saying that \u201cI believe that the values and moral commitments that are closely related to my belief in God are available to persons who are of a different faith than mine or of no faith at all.\u201d I received several comments on my blog and on Facebook from Christians who were not amused, including the following (in non-edited form):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>If you\u2019re so sure people don\u2019t need religion to be \u2018a fully moral person\u2019 as you say then you\u2019re your own inspiration and don\u2019t need to cherry pick examples from a faith that comes with specific instructions which you don\u2019t adhere to and obviously at a loss to understand . . . So what you have is a form of godliness that denies its power and entirely misses the point . . . You use the Sermon on the Mount as a guide on how to live a good human life which it\u2019s not but the core principles of God\u2019s Kingdom to come which is diametrically opposed to the world\u2019s standards which if you\u2019d read carefully you\u2019d realize.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I responded somewhat snarkily (which I now regret\u2014sort of), ending with<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><em>I hope you\u2019ll take the time to consider the possibility (likelihood) that Jesus\u2019 mission was never to establish a religion in the first place. It was to show a way of life. Christianity is a very large tent, my friend\u2013don\u2019t become accustomed to thinking that your little corner is its entirety.<\/em><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In an earlier post,\u00a0in which, on a Sunday when the Gospel reading was the Beatitudes, I discuss how the beauty and familiarity of the text often disguises just how radical and earth-shaking what Jesus is saying actually is.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"EY2gaTZmnu\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/liberals-worst-nightmare\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">A Liberal\u2019s Worst Nightmare<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cA Liberal\u2019s Worst Nightmare\u201d \u2014 Freelance Christianity\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/freelancechristianity\/liberals-worst-nightmare\/embed\/#?secret=hJbeAfatuD#?secret=EY2gaTZmnu\" data-secret=\"EY2gaTZmnu\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The very same commenter that I quoted above, who apparently looks regularly through my blog archives for heresy, posted this comment:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Are you trying to turn liberalism into a religion along quasi Christian lines \u2013 seriously- the level of indoctrination is astounding and another reason to shut down the humanities disciplines at universities- including theology. . . And for the last time the Sermon on the Mount \u2018beatitudes\u2019 describe the principles of God\u2019s Kingdom they\u2019re not a pointer to Saul Alinsky or a humanist utopia- get it?\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>That one made me laugh, since \u201cfor the last time\u201d and \u201cget it?\u201d were two of my father\u2019s favorite conversation-stopping comments when he lost patience with me or my brother. I responded:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><em>Let me put it this way\u2013I am a liberal because I am a Christian. Seriously. I love the \u201cand for the last time\u201d schtick\u2013as if you are the final voice of authority. Get it?<\/em><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I know nothing about the commenter, of course, nor does s\/he know anything about me, other than what I reveal in my blog. I am sure, though, that neither of us has the last word on what counts as \u201cChristian\u201d; I am also sure that all Christians would do well to stop questioning the pedigree or motives of those who occupy a different part of the big tent.<\/p>\n<p>One of the theological issues that James and Bob disagreed about was whether Jesus, while a human being on earth, was consciously aware that he was the Messiah. James said \u201cabsolutely yes,\u201d while Bob thought \u201cprobably not.\u201d Toward the end of his essay, James Carse\u2014now several decades older and wiser than divinity school James\u2014offers a perspective that all persons of faith should keep in mind when tempted to judge someone who does not entirely share their beliefs:<\/p>\n<p><strong>The fact is that there is no way of knowing for certain what Jesus thought of himself. The text is unclear. The best we can do is to develop an opinion but admit that support for it is ambiguous. Like all sacred texts, the Gospels have become a vast and patchy background against which we can do no more than project our experiential certainties and favored theories. What we see there is less the Gospels than the limitations of our own vision as it is profiled against their boundlessness.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As Carse suggests early in his essay, we should practice non-interference when engaging with the beliefs of others, choosing instead to \u201cperceive God in every form of belief.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If we remembered that water takes its color from the vessel containing it, we would not interfere with the beliefs of others, but would perceive God in every form of belief.\u00a0James Carse Once a number of years ago, in the early days of a four-month sabbatical at an ecumenical institute, I presented an overview of 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