{"id":16436,"date":"2013-08-27T05:30:16","date_gmt":"2013-08-27T09:30:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=16436"},"modified":"2013-08-26T21:26:44","modified_gmt":"2013-08-27T01:26:44","slug":"the-lutheran-roots-of-radical-orthodoxy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2013\/08\/the-lutheran-roots-of-radical-orthodoxy\/","title":{"rendered":"The Lutheran roots of Radical Orthodoxy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Not long ago we posted about the theological and philosophical movement known as<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2013\/08\/radical-orthodoxy\/#more-16333\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> Radical Orthodoxy<\/a>, asking whether Lutherans could have a seat at that table.\u00a0 Well, in another context, my friend George Strieter put me on to Johann Georg Hamann, a devout Lutheran who was friends with Kant and Hegel but who critiqued their philosophies with some extremely innovative philosophy of his own.\u00a0\u00a0 It turns out, Hamann\u2019s thought is said to be a major influence on \u201d Oswald Bayer, John Milbank and David Bentley Hart.\u201d\u00a0 The latter two are the most prominent figures in Radical Orthodoxy.\u00a0 And that Oswald Bayer , perhaps the favorite contemporary German theologian at Concordia Theological Seminary in Ft. Wayne, is mentioned here puts <em>him<\/em> in the company of the radically orthodox.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Johann_Georg_Hamann\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikipedia<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\n<blockquote><p><strong>Johann Georg Hamann<\/strong> (27 August 1730 \u2013 21 June 1788) was a noted German philosopher, a main proponent of the <em><a title=\"Sturm und Drang\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sturm_und_Drang\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sturm und Drang<\/a><\/em> movement, and associated by historian of ideas <a title=\"Isaiah Berlin\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Isaiah_Berlin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Isaiah Berlin<\/a> with the <a title=\"Counter-Enlightenment\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Counter-Enlightenment\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Counter-Enlightenment<\/a>. Both Goethe and Kierkegaard, along with many other notable intellectuals, considered him to be the finest mind of his time.<\/p>\n<p>He was destined for the pulpit, but became a clerk in a mercantile house, and afterward held many small public offices, devoting his leisure to intense study. He wrote under the <em><a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" title=\"Nom de plume\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nom_de_plume\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">nom de plume<\/a><\/em> of \u201cthe Magus of the North\u201d (<a title=\"German language\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/German_language\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">German<\/a>: <em>Magus im Norden<\/em>). He was also a polyglot who most notably translated David Hume into German; which is considered by most scholars as the translation that Hamann\u2019s friend, Immanuel Kant, had read and that proved so pivotal in the awakening of Kant\u2019s self-described \u201cdogmatic slumber\u201d. Both Hamann and Kant held each other in mutual respect; indeed, Kant once invited Hamann to co-write a physics textbook for children, which Hamann declined.<\/p>\n<p>His distrust of autonomous, disembodied <a title=\"Reason\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Reason\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">reason<\/a> and <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" title=\"The Enlightenment\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Enlightenment\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the Enlightenment<\/a> (\u201cI look upon logical proofs the way a well-bred girl looks upon a love letter\u201d was one of his many witticisms) led him to conclude that faith in <a title=\"God\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/God\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">God<\/a> was the only <a title=\"Solution\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Solution\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">solution<\/a> to the vexing problems of <a title=\"Philosophy\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philosophy\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">philosophy<\/a>. His most notable contributions to philosophy were his thoughts on language, which have often been considered as a forerunner to the linguistic-turn in postmodern philosophy and also Wittgenstein\u2019s philosophy. He famously said that \u201creason is language\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Hamann was a <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" title=\"Pietist\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pietist\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pietist<\/a> <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" title=\"Lutheran\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lutheran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lutheran<\/a>, and a friend (while being an intellectual opponent) of the philosopher <a title=\"Immanuel Kant\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Immanuel_Kant\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Immanuel Kant<\/a>. He was greatly influenced by <a title=\"David Hume\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/David_Hume\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">David Hume<\/a>. This is most evident in Hamann\u2019s conviction that faith and belief, rather than knowledge, determine human actions. Also, Hamann asserted that the efficacy of a concept arises from the habits it reflects rather than any inherent quality it possesses. Hamann famously used the image of <a title=\"Socrates\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Socrates\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Socrates<\/a>, who often proclaimed to know nothing, in his <em>Socratic Memorabilia<\/em>, an essay in which Hamann critiques the Enlightenment\u2019s dependence on reason.<\/p>\n<p>Hamann was one of the precipitating forces for the <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" title=\"Counter-enlightenment\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Counter-enlightenment\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">counter-enlightenment<\/a>. He was, moreover, a mentor to <a title=\"Johann Gottfried Herder\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Johann_Gottfried_Herder\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Herder<\/a> and an admired influence on <a title=\"Johann Wolfgang von Goethe\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Goethe<\/a>, <a title=\"Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Friedrich_Heinrich_Jacobi\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jacobi<\/a>, <a title=\"Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hegel<\/a>, <a title=\"S\u00f8ren Kierkegaard\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kierkegaard<\/a>, <a title=\"Gotthold Ephraim Lessing\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gotthold_Ephraim_Lessing\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lessing<\/a> and <a title=\"Moses Mendelssohn\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moses_Mendelssohn\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mendelssohn<\/a>. <a title=\"Hans Urs von Balthasar\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hans_Urs_von_Balthasar\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hans Urs von Balthasar<\/a> devoted a chapter to Hamann in his volume, <em>Studies in Theological Styles: Lay Styles<\/em> (Volume III in the English language translation of <em>The Glory of the Lord<\/em> series). Most recently Hamann\u2019s influence can be found in the work of the theologians Oswald Bayer, John Milbank and David Bentley Hart.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For a more in depth account of Hamann\u2019s theology, go to Rev. Michael C. Larson\u2019s blog\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/gemutlekeit.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/reflection-on-hamann-conference-in-nyc.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> here<\/a> and<a href=\"http:\/\/gemutlekeit.blogspot.com\/2010\/03\/johann-georg-hamann-on-divine.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am trying to get my mind around someone who was a catalyst for the cutting edge literature of German Romanticism\u00a0 AND linguistic analytic philosophy AND devout Lutheranism AND Radical Orthodoxy.\u00a0 I mean, how can a person be a mashup of the highly rationalistic David Hume, the wild-hearted poet Goethe, the existentialist Kierkegaard, and orthodox Lutheran theologians of his time and ours, all at the same time?\u00a0 I have the sense that grasping that synthesis may be a way forward for contemporary thought.<\/p>\n<p>From what I can piece together so far, Hamann showed, with great sophistication, the limits of reason and the necessity of revelation\u2013that is, the Word of God, which he then applied to the formative nature of language in general.\u00a0 I intend to read more.\u00a0 In the meantime, feel free to help me out, those of you who know about Hamann.<\/p>\n<p>(I\u2019m also intending to study Oswald Bayer.\u00a0 Watch for a post about him later.)<\/p><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not long ago we posted about the theological and philosophical movement known as Radical Orthodoxy, asking whether Lutherans could have a seat at that table.\u00a0 Well, in another context, my friend George Strieter put me on to Johann Georg Hamann, a devout Lutheran who was friends with Kant and Hegel but who critiqued their philosophies [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1281,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25,35,47],"tags":[2740,2739,1350,2741,1721,1839,2375],"class_list":["post-16436","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-language","category-philosophy-2","category-theology","tag-enlightenment","tag-johann-george-hamann","tag-lutheranism","tag-oswald-bayer","tag-philosophy","tag-radical-orthodoxy","tag-word-of-god"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - 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