{"id":17499,"date":"2013-12-19T06:00:57","date_gmt":"2013-12-19T11:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=17499"},"modified":"2013-12-18T15:57:24","modified_gmt":"2013-12-18T20:57:24","slug":"post-christian-vs-non-christian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2013\/12\/post-christian-vs-non-christian\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-Christian vs. non-Christian"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u201cPost-Christian\u201d does not mean the same as \u201cnon-Christian,\u201d observes John O\u2019Sullivan.\u00a0 A \u201cpost-Christian\u201d society is one that seeks to maintain the cultural legacy of Christianity\u2013such as human rights, benevolence, the institution of the family\u2013after the religious beliefs that created and supported this legacy have been abandoned.\u00a0 In their place, post-Christian societies try to substitute laws, regulations, bureaucracies, and secular ideologies, all of which fall short.<\/p>\n<p>The British journalist develops these ideas in an address to the Transatlantic Christian Council in Brussels, excerpted and linked after the jump.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>John O\u2019Sullivan,\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/366263\/our-post-christian-society-john-osullivan\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Our Post-Christian Society | National Review Online<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is often said that we live in a post-Christian society. That is true, but its meaning is generally misunderstood. A post-Christian society is not merely a society in which agnosticism or atheism is the prevailing fundamental belief. It is a society rooted in the history, culture, and practices of Christianity but in which the religious beliefs of Christianity have been either rejected or, worse, forgotten. In other words a post-Christian society is a particular sort of Christian society. It is quite different, for instance, from a post-Muslim or a post-Buddhist society (if we can imagine such things). At an emotional level, its Christian character explains why many agnostics and atheists nonetheless find Christian hymns suitable and comforting at occasions such as funerals and weddings. Intellectually, its dormant Christian beliefs \u2014 notably those about the nature of Man \u2014 underpin our ideas on politics and foreign policy, as for instance on human rights. Even the Enlightenment \u2014 which strong secularists like to cite as the foundation of Western liberal polities \u2014 is an extension of Christianity as much as a rejection of it. In short, though much of what Christianity taught is forgotten, even unknown, by modern Europeans and Americans, they nonetheless act on its teachings every day.<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\n<p>But there are consequences to forgetting truths. One consequence is that while we instinctively want to preserve the morals and manners of the Christian tradition, we cannot quite explain or defend them intellectually. So we find ourselves seeking more contemporary (i.e., in practice, secular) reasons for preserving them or, when they decay completely, inventing regulations to mimic them. When courtesy is abandoned, we invent speech codes, which are blunter in their impact and repress legitimate disagreement along with insults. When female sexual modesty and male sexual restraint are discredited as puritanical, we draw up contractual arrangements to ensure that any sexual contact is voluntary on both sides. This means that sexual relationships (and their consequences) may occur more often but that they do so in an atmosphere of mutual suspicion and legal wariness that poisons relations between men and women over the long run. Above all, when we no longer protect and strengthen the family on the grounds that it is a patriarchal institution harmful to the life chances of women, we encourage the family breakdown that leaves women worse off financially, pushes men into an irresponsible life, and damages their children socially and psychologically.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/366263\/our-post-christian-society-john-osullivan\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[Keep reading. . .]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote><\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cPost-Christian\u201d does not mean the same as \u201cnon-Christian,\u201d observes John O\u2019Sullivan.\u00a0 A \u201cpost-Christian\u201d society is one that seeks to maintain the cultural legacy of Christianity\u2013such as human rights, benevolence, the institution of the family\u2013after the religious beliefs that created and supported this legacy have been abandoned.\u00a0 In their place, post-Christian societies try to substitute laws, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1281,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12,25],"tags":[2921,1984],"class_list":["post-17499","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-church","category-culture","category-language","tag-post-christian","tag-secularism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Post-Christian vs. non-Christian<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&quot;Post-Christian&quot; 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