{"id":20295,"date":"2014-12-03T05:30:58","date_gmt":"2014-12-03T10:30:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=20295"},"modified":"2014-12-02T21:15:37","modified_gmt":"2014-12-03T02:15:37","slug":"royal-blood-without-royal-dna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2014\/12\/royal-blood-without-royal-dna\/","title":{"rendered":"Royal blood without royal DNA"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

We\u2019ve blogged about the discovery <\/a>of a skeleton with a deformed back found where Richard III was supposed to have been buried.\u00a0 Studies have confirmed that the skeleton is that of Richard III, the Plantagenet king and Shakespearean villain, who was overthrown by Henry Tudor (father of Henry VIII and grandfather of Queen Elizabeth I).<\/p>\n

The studies further show a significant problem with a hereditary monarchy: \u00a0 DNA from the skeleton does not match known male ancestors, suggesting that some queen must have committed adultery and borne a son who became king of England without really being the previous king\u2019s son.\u00a0 This would also cast doubt on the legitimacy of his successors.\u00a0 And since the contending families were intermarried and intertwined, this casts doubt\u00a0 on the Yorks, the Lancasters, and the Tudors.\u00a0 (The current royal family, the Windsors<\/a>, would not be affected.)\u00a0 This raises the question of whether Henry IV, Henry V, Henry VI, Henry VII, Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary I, and Elizabeth I were rightful monarchs whose laws had authority.<\/p>\n

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From DNA analysis on Richard III\u2019s remains raises questions over royal succession \u2013 Science \u2013 News \u2013 The Independent<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Scientists studying the DNA of Richard III, the Plantagenet king whose body was found buried beneath a Leicester car park, have revealed that there was marital infidelity among his aristocratic relatives.<\/p>\n

Paternity tests on the DNA of a living male-line descendant of Richard III\u2019s royal lineage have failed to find a match, which points to some royal person being born on the wrong side of the bed sheets, the researchers revealed.<\/p>\n

The latest research into the DNA extracted from the 15th century skeleton shows unequivocally that the remains belong to Richard III, who died in the battle of Bosworth in 1485, said Turi King of Leicester University, the lead author of the study published in Nature Communications.<\/p>\n

\u201cEven with our highly conservative analysis, the evidence is overwhelming that these are indeed the remains of King Richard III, thereby closing an over 500-year-old missing person\u2019s case,\u201d Dr King said.<\/p>\n

Mitochondrial DNA extracted from the skeleton, which is passed on exclusively through the maternal line, matches precisely with two female-line descendants alive today, who are both 14th cousins twice removed from Richard III, Dr King said.<\/p>\n

These findings, combined with other circumstantial evidence, give a probability of the skeleton belonging to Richard as 99.9994 per cent, the scientists said.<\/p>\n

However, DNA analysis of the Y chromosome of Richard did not match a living descendant of Henry, fifth Duke of Beaufort, who was supposed to be related to Richard through the male line, Dr King said.<\/p>\n

Henry, fifth Duke of Beaufort Henry, fifth Duke of Beaufort \u201cDoing the Y-chromosome research I found there wasn\u2019t a link between Richard III and the male-line relatives who are alive today. So clearly although the genealogy says they are male-line related, the DNA is telling us that there has been a non-paternity or break in that Y-chromosome chain between the 5th Duke of Beaufort, who is their common male-line ancestor, and Richard III, which is 19 generations between them,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

This suggests that the male-line lineage descended from Richard\u2019s great-great grandfather, Edward III, was broken at some point in history, calling into question various claims to the throne \u2013 including that of the Tudors, said Kevin Shurer, professor of local history at Leicester University. . . .<\/p>\n

Depending on which link in the chain is broken, and of course there is the possibility that there could be more than one break, this asks questions about the Plantagenets and of course the claims to the throne of both the Houses of York and Lancaster,\u201d Professor Shurer said.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe critical [links in the chain] are between Edward III and his son John of Gaunt. If the break occurs here then this asks questions about the legitimacy of John\u2019s son Henry IV and his subsequent heirs, Henry V and Henry VI,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

\u201cIn addition, since the Tudor dynasty was also descended from John of Gaunt there is an indirect influence over the Tudors\u2019 claim to the throne,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n

\u201cLikewise if the break is in the part of the chain from Edward III to Richard III this would also ask questions about the legitimacy of the claims of both Richard and of course his brother Edward \u2013 but we have absolutely no proof of that,\u201d he emphasised.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

We\u2019ve blogged about the discovery of a skeleton with a deformed back found where Richard III was supposed to have been buried.\u00a0 Studies have confirmed that the skeleton is that of Richard III, the Plantagenet king and Shakespearean villain, who was overthrown by Henry Tudor (father of Henry VIII and grandfather of Queen Elizabeth I). 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