{"id":21766,"date":"2015-07-15T06:00:30","date_gmt":"2015-07-15T10:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=21766"},"modified":"2015-07-14T22:40:22","modified_gmt":"2015-07-15T02:40:22","slug":"what-churches-can-expect-from-the-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2015\/07\/what-churches-can-expect-from-the-world\/","title":{"rendered":"What churches can expect from the world"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>As churches try to think through the implications of the gay marriage ruling, many Christians are realizing for the first time that the United States is not, if it ever has been, a Christian nation.\u00a0 Furthermore, that Christianity no longer exerts much moral influence on the culture as a whole.\u00a0 This may prove beneficial, at least, in disentangling the Christian faith from civil religion.\u00a0\u00a0 At any rate, Christians are re-thinking their relationship to the culture and to the state.<\/p>\n<p>Lutherans doing this are looking for guidance from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hermann_Sasse\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hermann Sasse<\/a>, the anti-Nazi confessional theologian.\u00a0 Not that the United States is equivalent to Nazi Germany, but that how Sasse dealt with an extreme case of national idolatry can help us think through less extreme cases.<\/p>\n<p>So I\u2019m going to be posting some Sasse quotes for our consideration and discussion.\u00a0 First off, Sasse asks churches, what do you expect from the world?\u00a0 And then he gives the answer of what we should expect.<!--more-->\u201cThe Lutheran Churches are still sunning themselves in the delusion that they have something to expect from the world other than the dear holy cross, which all those must carry who proclaim God\u2019s Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ to mankind. But this delusion will soon disappear. Our American brethren in the faith will also learn this through painful experiences.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Hermann Sasse, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0758628005?creativeASIN=0758628005&amp;linkCode=w01&amp;linkId=L6JYINBSBB4X5ZHO&amp;ref_=as_sl_pc_ss_til&amp;tag=cranach-20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Letters Addressed to Lutheran Pastors<\/em><\/a>, \u201cEcclesia Orans\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Quoted by Pastor Mark Schroeder, <a href=\"http:\/\/steadfastlutherans.org\/2015\/07\/a-july-4th-rumination-on-resident-aliens\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A July 4th Rumination on\u00a0 Resident Aliens | Steadfast Lutherans<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=ss_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=cranach-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=0758628005&amp;asins=0758628005&amp;linkId=L6JYINBSBB4X5ZHO&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><br>\n<\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As churches try to think through the implications of the gay marriage ruling, many Christians are realizing for the first time that the United States is not, if it ever has been, a Christian nation.\u00a0 Furthermore, that Christianity no longer exerts much moral influence on the culture as a whole.\u00a0 This may prove beneficial, at [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1281,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[274,1009],"class_list":["post-21766","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-church","tag-bearing-the-cross","tag-hermann-sasse"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - 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