{"id":5687,"date":"2010-06-03T22:54:59","date_gmt":"2010-06-04T02:54:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.geneveith.com\/?p=5687"},"modified":"2010-06-03T22:54:59","modified_gmt":"2010-06-04T02:54:59","slug":"limited-vs-unlimited-government","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2010\/06\/limited-vs-unlimited-government\/","title":{"rendered":"Limited vs. Unlimited government"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>George Will reviews a book that seems to go to the heart of the difference between conservatism and progressivism:  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1594033765?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=cranach-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1594033765\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Never Enough: America\u2019s Limitless Welfare State<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=cranach-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1594033765\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\"><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Today, as it has been for a century, American politics is an argument between two Princetonians \u2014 James Madison, Class of 1771, and Woodrow Wilson, Class of 1879. Madison was the most profound thinker among the Founders. Wilson, avatar of \u201cprogressivism,\u201d was the first president critical of the nation\u2019s founding. Barack Obama\u2019s Wilsonian agenda reflects its namesake\u2019s rejection of limited government.<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\nLack of \u201ca limiting principle\u201d is the essence of progressivism, according to William Voegeli, contributing editor of the Claremont Review of Books, in his new book \u201cNever Enough: America\u2019s Limitless Welfare State.\u201d The Founders, he writes, believed that free government\u2019s purpose, and the threats to it, are found in nature. The threats are desires for untrammeled power, desires which, Madison said, are \u201csown in the nature of man.\u201d Government\u2019s limited purpose is to protect the exercise of natural rights that pre-exist government, rights that human reason can ascertain in unchanging principles of conduct and that are essential to the pursuit of happiness.\n<p>Wilsonian progressives believe that History is a proper noun, an autonomous thing. It, rather than nature, defines government\u2019s ever-evolving and unlimited purposes. Government exists to dispense an ever-expanding menu of rights \u2014 entitlements that serve an open-ended understanding of material and even spiritual well-being.<\/p>\n<p>The name \u201cprogressivism\u201d implies criticism of the Founding, which we leave behind as we make progress. And the name is tautological: History is progressive because progress is defined as whatever History produces. History guarantees what the Supreme Court has called \u201cevolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The cheerful assumption is that \u201cevolving\u201d must mean \u201cimproving.\u201d Progressivism\u2019s promise is a program for every problem, and progressivism\u2019s premise is that every unfulfilled desire is a problem.<\/p>\n<p>via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2010\/06\/02\/AR2010060203278.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">George F. Will \u2013 The danger of a government with unlimited power<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Read the whole column, which shows how this plays out in the stated\u00a0 political theory of FDR, LBJ, and others.\u00a0 To you progressives in the audience:\u00a0 Do you accept this characterization?\u00a0 If not, what limits would you place on the role and power of the government?\u00a0 Are there some desires that do not constitute \u201crights\u201d?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote><\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>George Will reviews a book that seems to go to the heart of the difference between conservatism and progressivism: Never Enough: America\u2019s Limitless Welfare State Today, as it has been for a century, American politics is an argument between two Princetonians \u2014 James Madison, Class of 1771, and Woodrow Wilson, Class of 1879. 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