{"id":64860,"date":"2023-02-01T06:00:53","date_gmt":"2023-02-01T11:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=64860"},"modified":"2023-01-28T18:28:23","modified_gmt":"2023-01-28T23:28:23","slug":"do-we-live-in-israel-or-babylon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2023\/02\/do-we-live-in-israel-or-babylon\/","title":{"rendered":"Do We Live in Israel or Babylon?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/305\/2023\/01\/Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64947\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/305\/2023\/01\/Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"725\" height=\"502\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Marvin Olasky, my friend and the former editor of <em>World Magazine<\/em>, asks a provocative question that reframes the issue of how Christians should engage with culture:\u00a0 \u201cDo we live in ancient Israel or a modern Babylon?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In an article for <em>Christianity Today<\/em> entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/ct\/2023\/january-web-only\/israel-babylon-exile-evangelical-christian-nationalism.html?utm_source=CT+Weekly+Newsletter&amp;utm_medium=Newsletter&amp;utm_term=739740&amp;utm_content=12064&amp;utm_campaign=email\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">We Live in Babylon, Not Israel<\/a>, he gives his answer.\u00a0 He points out that the children of Israel were given specific laws that set them apart as a holy community.<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"text\">Looking back to ancient Israel, the emphasis was on purity, not evangelism\u2014God sent Ishmael and Esau into the wilderness, told Joshua to destroy the Canaanites, and instructed Ezra to insist that the Israelites put away foreign wives. To make the Holy Land holy, God commanded a zero-tolerance policy: There shall be no abominations among you.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>He cites Jeremiah, who excoriates the Israelites for defiling the land God had given them, so that He will take it away and send them into exile.\u00a0 But once the people are taken away in captivity to Babylon, Jeremiah does not tell them to overthrow that nation\u2019s idols and impose Biblical law.\u00a0 Rather, he says,<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"text\">This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon: \u201cBuild houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce. \u2026 Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.\u201d (Jer. 29:4\u20135, 7)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>To be sure, even in exile, God\u2019s people were to remain faithful to Him and follow His Word.\u00a0 Though there were to be no soothsayers in Israel (Deut. 18:10\u201312), Daniel became the leader of the Babylonian soothsayers (Dan. 2:48).\u00a0 Daniel did not try to put an end to Babylonian paganism.\u00a0 And yet he himself refused to bow down to an idolatrous image, even in the face of the lion\u2019s den.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"text\">Daniel thought and acted independently from these ungodly people, but nowhere did he indicate a plan or desire to wipe them out. As a stranger in a strange land, he had to coexist with them\u2014which makes him a role model for us. For at least 66 years, from 605 to 539 B.C., Daniel lived and worked under Babylonian authority, always trying to serve a strange public while remaining true to God.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>With the coming of Christ, the emphasis shifted to evangelism.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"text\">In the Old Testament, all idols in the land of Israel were to be destroyed. And yet in the New Testament, the apostle Paul never tried to remove pagan altars and idols from public streets in the city of Athens (Acts 17:17\u201331). He and the gospel writers emphasized proclaiming the Good News of Christ at every opportunity, without calling for the imposition of biblical law. . . .<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">Without a land to preserve but with a gospel to proclaim, the primary directive for early believers was to bring in the sheaves rather than to try enforcing biblical law.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Marvin concludes with a warning against \u201cChristian nationalism.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWe have no holy land or temple to defend, but churches should aspire to be model cities in God\u2019s kingdom\u2014where, by his grace, individuals can and will be changed from the inside out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What do you think about this analysis?\u00a0 It does seem that Christian nationalists speak of America as if it were ancient Israel.\u00a0 If the USA is really a \u201cChristian nation,\u201d as they contend, that might make sense.\u00a0 But certainly the whole nation is not \u201cChristian\u201d today and, indeed, never was or could be.\u00a0 Christianity is for the salvation of individual people who have immortal souls, whereas nations, though estates from God, are temporal institutions, destined to pass away.\u00a0 Besides, Christianity is not primarily about our fulfilling, much less imposing, God\u2019s law; rather, it is primarily about recognizing our failure to do so and finding forgiveness through Christ\u2019s fulfillment of that law and His atoning death and resurrection on our behalf.<\/p>\n<p>The prophets did condemn the wickedness of Babylon and the other pagan nations (see Jeremiah 51 and Isaiah 21).\u00a0 God will indeed judge the nations.<\/p>\n<p>Christians should resist America\u2019s embrace of abortion and other cultural evils.\u00a0 Marvin is not agreeing with the pro-abortion slogan, \u201cIf you don\u2019t believe in abortion, don\u2019t have one.\u201d\u00a0 Though if the 72% of Americans who profess to be Christians would would follow God\u2019s Word on the matter, that would put a major dent in the abortion rate.\u00a0 Still, moral truth is not just for Christians.\u00a0 And, Christianity has had a profound influence on secular culture.\u00a0 (See Alvin Schmidt\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Dp8qul\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Under the Influence:\u00a0 How Christianity Transformed Civilization<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Still, realizing that we are in Babylon, as \u201cstrangers in a strange land\u201d (Ex 2:22;KJV), should give us a perspective on what we are up against and should temper any utopian expectations and ambitions.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" 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