{"id":69341,"date":"2023-10-02T06:00:23","date_gmt":"2023-10-02T10:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/?p=69341"},"modified":"2023-09-29T15:56:21","modified_gmt":"2023-09-29T19:56:21","slug":"monday-miscellany-10-2-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2023\/10\/monday-miscellany-10-2-23\/","title":{"rendered":"Monday Miscellany, 10\/2\/23"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/305\/2023\/03\/cranach-seal.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-65538\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/305\/2023\/03\/cranach-seal.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"276\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Americans who don\u2019t believe in freedom; sacking Philadelphia; and the \u201cpersuadables\u201d who may turn the election.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">Americans Who Don\u2019t Believe in Freedom<\/h4>\n<p>We are told that our democracy is in peril,\u00a0 But democracy is not enough for a \u201cliberal\u201d\u2013that is, free\u2013society.\u00a0 Democracy alone does not insure freedom.\u00a0 There can be authoritarian, even tyrannical, democracies.\u00a0 A liberal form of government must also include individual rights that ensure each person\u2019s liberties.<\/p>\n<p>But today a substantial percentage of Americans just don\u2019t believe in individual freedom.\u00a0 Here are some results from a recent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/real_clear_opinion_research\/poll_is_censorship_a_partisan_issue_149790.html#2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">RealClearPolitics poll<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div id=\"premium-content\">\n<ul class=\"bullet-points\">\n<li>Republican voters (74%) and independents (61%) believe speech should be legal \u201cunder any circumstances, while Democrats are almost evenly divided. A bare majority of Democrats (53%) say speech should be legal under any circumstances, while 47% say it should be legal \u201conly under certain circumstances.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>Nearly one-third of Democratic voters (34%) say Americans have \u201ctoo much freedom.\u201d This compared to 14.6% of Republicans. Republicans were most likely to say Americans have too little freedom (46%), while only 22% of Democrats feel that way. Independents were in the middle in both categories.<\/li>\n<li>Although majorities of Democrats, Republicans, and independents agree the news media should be able to report stories they believe are in the national interest, this consensus shifts when it comes to social media censorship. A majority of Democrats (52%) approve of the government censoring social media content under the rubric of protecting national security. Among Republicans and independents, this percentage is only one-third.<\/li>\n<li>Poll respondents were read this statement: \u201cI disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.\u201d Only 31% of Democratic voters \u201cstrongly agreed\u201d with that sentiment, compared to 51% of Republicans.<\/li>\n<li>Fully three-fourths of Democrats believe government has a responsibility to limit \u201chateful\u201d social media posts, while Republicans are more split, with 50% believing the government has a responsibility to restrict hateful posts. (Independents, once again, are in the middle.)<\/li>\n<li>Democrats are significantly more likely than Republicans to favor stifling the free speech rights of political extremists. Also, Republicans don\u2019t vary by the group: Only about half of GOP voters favor censorship \u2014 whether asked about the Ku Klux Klan, Nazis, or the Communist Party.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">Sacking Philadelphia<\/h4>\n<p>Last Tuesday and Wednesday, shops and businesses throughout Philadelphia were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.inquirer.com\/news\/philadelphia\/center-city-police-teens-stealing-apple-store-20230926.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">looted and vandalized<\/a>.\u00a0 The large-scale pillaging began after a court refused to charge a police officer who had shot a young black man.\u00a0 But his family, supporters, and Philadelphia officials denied that the property violence had anything to do with protesting the court\u2019s decision.\u00a0 The looters were called \u201ccriminal opportunists\u201d who did not participate in the protests.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out, the looting was organized on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/crime\/plans-for-tuesday-s-vandalism-were-an-open-secret-on-social-media-and-the-destruction-was-documented-in-videos-through-the-night\/ar-AA1hmAH7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">social media,<\/a> with a call on Instagram to \u201cgo \u2018shopping'\u201d [quotation marks in the original post] and one \u201cinfluencer\u201d directing a caravan of cars filled with looters from one shopping district to another.\u00a0 In the meantime, other copycat groups started breaking windows, stealing merchandise, and trashing interiors in other parts of the city.<\/p>\n<p>The plundering went on for two nights.\u00a0 Police arrested <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcphiladelphia.com\/news\/local\/another-night-of-looting-erupts-in-philadelphia\/3655738\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">61 people<\/a>, most of whom were young people between 18 and 22.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">The \u201cPersuadables\u201d Who May Turn the Election<\/h4>\n<p>Most political polling features a horserace between candidates.\u00a0 But a new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/politics\/elections\/election-2024-poll-voters-trump-biden-5f5dfc93?mod=hp_lista_pos1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wall Street Journal poll<\/a> [behind a paywall] zeroes in on likely voters who haven\u2019t made up their mind what they will do and are \u201cpersuadable\u201d either way.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out, 26% of Americans\u2013over one fourth\u2013are in this category.\u00a0 That would be more than enough to determine the outcome of a close election.<\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t like either Biden or Trump:\u00a0 70% disapprove of the current president, thinking him too old, with few accomplishments, and presiding over a weak economy.\u00a0 They do think he is more likable than Trump and cares more about ordinary Americans.\u00a0 Trump scores slightly worse, with a disapproval rating of 74%.\u00a0 The persuadables give him credit for accomplishing a lot, but they dislike his personal qualities and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. They also don\u2019t like the way Republicans are trying to impeach Biden.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the persuadables care less about Trump\u2019s indictments and the Hunter Biden scandal than most Americans.<\/p>\n<p>What doesn\u2019t bode well for Republicans is that these undecided voters also tend to be big supporters of abortion.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Americans who don&#8217;t believe in freedom; sacking Philadelphia; and the &#8220;persuadables&#8221; who may turn the election.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1281,"featured_media":65538,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,600,36],"tags":[872,6743,13910,13913],"class_list":["post-69341","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-america","category-crime","category-politics","tag-freedom","tag-liberal-democracy","tag-philadelphia-looting","tag-undecided-voters"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Monday Miscellany, 10\/2\/23<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Americans who don&#039;t believe in freedom; 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