{"id":106983,"date":"2013-06-18T13:42:38","date_gmt":"2013-06-18T17:42:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/getreligion\/?p=106983"},"modified":"2013-06-18T14:00:18","modified_gmt":"2013-06-18T18:00:18","slug":"bbc-attacks-a-major-same-sex-marriage-stereotype","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/getreligion\/2013\/06\/bbc-attacks-a-major-same-sex-marriage-stereotype\/","title":{"rendered":"BBC attacks major same-sex marriage stereotype (updated)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Here inside the Beltway, a kind of nervous hush has settled over the church-state battlefield while everyone waits for the U.S. Supreme Court to issue its ruling on the status of gay marriage in the battleground state of California (for sure) and perhaps even in the United States of America. There have been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=Justice%2C+Ginsburg%2C+Roe%2C+too+fast&amp;oq=Justice%2C+Ginsburg%2C+Roe%2C+too+fast&amp;aqs=chrome.0.57.8843j0&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">some hints from the legal left<\/a> that the court will \u2014 fearing another <em>Roe v. Wade<\/em> apocalypse \u2014 issue a narrow ruling.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the elite mainstream press have, of course, remained in full-voice cheerleader mode. As Arthur Brisbane described his own company, in his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2012\/08\/26\/opinion\/sunday\/success-and-risk-as-the-times-transforms.html?_r=4&amp;smid=tw-share&amp;pagewanted=print\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">swan song last year as public editor<\/a> at <em>The New York Times<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When <em>The Times<\/em> covers a national presidential campaign, I have found that the lead editors and reporters are disciplined about enforcing fairness and balance, and usually succeed in doing so. Across the paper\u2019s many departments, though, so many share a kind of political and cultural progressivism \u2014 for lack of a better term \u2014 that this worldview virtually bleeds through the fabric of <em>The Times<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, developments like the Occupy movement and gay marriage seem almost to erupt in <em>The Times<\/em>, overloved and undermanaged, more like causes than news subjects.<\/p>\n<p>Stepping back, I can see that as the digital transformation proceeds, as <em>The Times<\/em> disaggregates and as an empowered staff finds new ways to express itself, a kind of <em>Times<\/em> Nation has formed around the paper\u2019s political-cultural worldview, an audience unbound by geography (as distinct from the old days of print) and one that self-selects in digital space.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But miracles happen. Every now and then, a major media outlet breaks loose and reports some voices who do not easily and quickly fit into the familiar templates, voices that might even point journalists toward the compromise that may still be possible between the entrenched armies on the cultural left and right.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/magazine-22758434\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">BBC team did that the other day<\/a> with an entire piece dedicated to gays and lesbians who are opposed to gay \u201cmarriage.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Now, the scare quotes around \u201cmarriage\u201d are there for a reason. It\u2019s clear, in this story, that the people who are in this camp are fully on board when it comes to full legal rights being granted to other gays and lesbians. The problem, for them, is the word \u201cmarriage\u201d with all  of \u2014 yes \u2014 its religious and moral overtones.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, religion is a key part of this debate. Here\u2019s a key block of material right up top:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Jonathan Soroff lives in liberal Massachusetts with his male partner, Sam. He doesn\u2019t fit the common stereotype of an opponent of gay marriage. But like half of his friends, he does not believe that couples of the same gender should marry.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re not going to procreate as a couple and while the desire to demonstrate commitment might be laudable, the religious traditions that have accommodated same-sex couples have had to do some fairly major contortions,\u201d says Soroff.<\/p>\n<p>Until the federal government recognises and codifies the same rights for same-sex couples as straight ones, equality is the goal so why get hung up on a word, he asks.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m not going to walk down the aisle to Mendelssohn wearing white in a church and throw a bouquet and do the first dance,\u201d adds Soroff, columnist for the <em>Improper Boston<\/em>. \u201cI\u2019ve been to some lovely gay weddings but aping the traditional heterosexual wedding is weird and I don\u2019t understand why anyone wants to do that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m not saying that people who want that shouldn\u2019t have it but for me, all that matters is the legal stuff.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And what about viewpoints on the lesbian\/feminist side of the aisle, where the word \u201cmarriage\u201d has rarely been a happy word?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026 (While) favourable rulings will spark celebrations among pro-marriage supporters across the US, some gay men and women will instead see it as a victory for a patriarchal institution that bears no historical relevance to them.<\/p>\n<p>Some lesbians are opposed to marriage on feminist grounds, says Claudia Card, a professor of philosophy at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, because they see it as an institution that serves the interests of men more than women. It is also, in her view \u201cheteronormative\u201d, embodying the view that heterosexuality is the preferred and normal sexuality.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s undeniable that marriage has historically also discriminated against same-sex couples,\u201d Card says.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, she thinks the issue of marriage is a distraction. \u201cGay activists should instead put their energies into environmental issues like climate change, because there\u2019s a chance to make a morally more defensible and more urgent difference.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Believe it or not, the journalists behind this rather unique article even found a third angle on the same essential premise. Does using the word \u201cmarriage\u201d imply acceptance of a moral, even religious, structure that ends up denying legal rights to those who reject those moral norms?<\/p>\n<p>Others in the \u201cNo\u201d camp oppose marriage more broadly because, they say, it denies benefits to people who are unmarried, or because they<br>\nsay it simply doesn\u2019t work.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Legba Carrefour, who describes himself as \u201cradical queer\u201d, calls it a \u201cdestructive way of life\u201d that produces broken families.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are only one or two generations away from children coming from gay marriage that are also from broken homes,\u201d he says.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This article is so unique that, at times, it\u2019s clear the BBC team is simply giving its best guess at the number of people who hold these viewpoints. That\u2019s a weakness, but, as the story notes, major polling companies have not been asking this specific question to gay citizens. And then there is another factor: Gays and lesbians, and their usual supporters, who voice these opinions often face a severe backlash.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, in Europe, it\u2019s pretty clear that this ideological camp exists. BBC noted:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In France, gay men and women joined the protests that preceded and followed this year\u2019s introduction of same-sex marriage. A website called Homovox featured 12 gay men and women opposed to it, with some of them citing a belief that children benefit most from opposite-sex parents.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The article does not, alas, do more to explore the religious element of the story, even though that pops up from time to time. For example, the article does not address the views of self-identified gays, lesbians and bisexuals who are Catholics, Orthodox Jews, traditional Protestants, Buddhists, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Muslims, etc., yet who still support and strive to follow the moral teachings of their faiths.<\/p>\n<p>All of this underlines the bottom line that so many journalists do not seem to be able to see: There are multiple points of view on gay-rights issues in a variety of different camps. BBC signed off with this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>With so many different points of view on a subject that has long divided America, perhaps the debate just underlines the obvious \u2014 gay people are like everyone else.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Has anyone else seen other elite mainstream coverage of this camp in the same-sex marriage debates?<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong> Just <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/the-fix\/wp\/2013\/06\/17\/is-the-political-fight-over-gay-marriage-over-or-is-that-just-the-story-the-media-is-telling\/?print=1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">saw this<\/a>, minutes after clicking to post this piece. Clearly this is a related topic:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.journalism.org\/analysis_report\/news_coverage_conveys_strong_momentum#.Ub7u05gEBEs.twitter\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">new study by the Pew Research Center<\/a> raises an important question about that perceived momentum: Is it being created, at least in part, by positive news media coverage of the possibility of legalization? <\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn a period marked by Supreme Court deliberations on the subject, the news media coverage provided a strong sense of momentum towards legalizing same-sex marriage,\u201d reads the report. \u201cStories with more statements supporting same-sex marriage outweighed those with more statements opposing it by a margin of roughly 5-to-1.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Forty-seven percent of news stories on same sex marriage from March 18 (a week before the Court heard oral arguments on the Defense of Marriage Act and California\u2019s Proposition 8) to May 12 focused on support for the measure while just nine percent focused on opposition and 44 percent of the coverage was mixed in its focus.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And coverage of people caught in the middle, not aligned perfectly with the folks on the far right or far left?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here inside the Beltway, a kind of nervous hush has settled over the church-state battlefield while everyone waits for the U.S. Supreme Court to issue its ruling on the status of gay marriage in the battleground state of California (for sure) and perhaps even in the United States of America. 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