{"id":1100,"date":"2016-12-19T07:00:48","date_gmt":"2016-12-18T21:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/?p=1100"},"modified":"2018-01-24T13:32:04","modified_gmt":"2018-01-24T03:32:04","slug":"silliness-problem-paganism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/2016\/12\/silliness-problem-paganism.html","title":{"rendered":"Is Silliness a Problem in Paganism?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

The other day The Wild Hunt reported on a man named Phelan MoonSong<\/a> who went through the process of fighting to have the right wear goat horns in his ID photo.\u00a0 On a cursory reading it\u2019s pretty easy to think about how silly and weird he is for doing that.\u00a0 Who the hell wears horns like that all the time anyway?\u00a0 Some people, like John Halstead, have even written about it<\/a> \u2013 with any number of commenters agreeing in their own fashion.<\/p>\n

\"Pagans,
Don\u2019t look like a weirdo! Public domain via Pixabay<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

They Won\u2019t Take Us Seriously<\/h2>\n

This is the general idea behind Johns post \u2013 non-Pagans will see the story about this guy who wears horns and they will judge all of the rest of us based on his attire.\u00a0 No one will take us seriously and that also means that they will not take our religions seriously.<\/p>\n

I both agree and disagree with John here.\u00a0 Yes, it does matter that our religions are taken seriously but he misses the whole point.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter that the general non-Pagan population takes us seriously, I mean we are talking about seeming frivolities here not matters that will get our houses burnt down because, aaaah you cursed my cows!\u00a0 Other than the annoying assumptions that non-Pagans may make about us, which we have to endure already anyway, the way the public perceives us regarding \u201csilliness\u201d just isn\u2019t that important.<\/p>\n

No what really matters is how the law and the governments view us and treat us.\u00a0 It matters that our laws and governments and the government departments we will need to deal with in our respective countries take us seriously.\u00a0 And guess what?\u00a0 They do.<\/p>\n

Phelan MoonSong has literally proven that the government does and will take us seriously no matter how frivolous and silly our demands may seem.\u00a0 He demanded to have the right to wear horns (horns of all the things) in his ID photo, and after a struggle, he did win because he had the legal high ground.\u00a0 His example may seem silly on the surface but it shows us something important.\u00a0 No matter how silly we may seem, our religions are being taken seriously \u2013 seriously enough that some of us can wear horns in official photos.<\/p>\n

So, what does it matter if some non-Pagans don\u2019t take us seriously because of this matter, when this matter has also done the opposite where it really counts.<\/p>\n

He\u2019s Just Trying to Stand Out<\/h2>\n

This is the other complaint I am seeing, mostly from those commenting on both TWH and Johns post \u2013 too many Pagans do things like this because they just want to stand out, they treat D&D like real life, treat Paganism like cosplay.\u00a0 I\u2019ve seen this complaint before and it got me to thinking a little bit.<\/p>\n

Look, I agree, the horns are a bit silly from my perspective and I assume also from the view of many, many other Pagans.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s surely as bad and stupid as the guy who apparently can wear a strainer on his head in official photos because Flying Spaghetti Monster.\u00a0 Right?<\/p>\n

Well, no.\u00a0 Sure, we can think it\u2019s a bit silly, we judge things from our own perspectives which are usually heavily tainted by our overculture, but also by our own personal aesthetics and opinions.\u00a0 It\u2019s cool, we have opinions and likes and dislikes, and we can feel however we want about other peoples choice of dress.\u00a0 But our opinions and feelings don\u2019t necessarily equal the reality of the person being judged by us.<\/p>\n

Wearing horns may be a silly and frivolous thing to you and me, it may be a method of standing out for some people \u2013 but that doesn\u2019t mean the same is true for MoonSong.<\/p>\n

There are many religious things, religious trappings, that are taken seriously and get little to no side eye from the general public, despite the fact if you really think about it \u2013 they are kind of ridiculous.\u00a0 As mentioned in the comments of the TWH article, why are goat horns so ridiculous but Jewish yamulke, Mormons<\/a> sacred undergarments, Muslim hijabs, Sihk sacred blades and turbans, the Popes fish shaped hat and so many Christians necklaces of \u201ca mutilated corpse on a tree trunk\u201d considered normal and okay and not at all silly or done to stand out?<\/a><\/p>\n

We take these things seriously, but judge our own communitys individual garb with a harsher eye?\u00a0 Who are we to say that just because we wouldn\u2019t wear such things ourselves in seriousness then obviously anyone else wearing them is actually just taking the piss?<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not up to us to judge such things.\u00a0 Yes, we can judge if something is aesthetically pleasing, yes we can judge if we want to be seen with someone who wears goats horns (I wouldn\u2019t care either way, but I have young kids who wear fairy wings and witches hats in public, not only on Halloween), yes we can say we find it silly or frivolous.\u00a0 But we do not get to say that the person wearing it is not taking it seriously.\u00a0 We do not get to judge the person as not taking their religion seriously, based only on our own likes and dislikes.\u00a0 We don\u2019t get to say their motives are such and such, just because that\u2019s what our motives would be in the same situation.<\/p>\n

Some Pagans wear head scarves to cover their hair, some Pagans will get sacred tattoos and piercings to connect with their religion and their deities, spirits or ancestors.\u00a0 Some Pagans do this.\u00a0 What is interesting is that there are many Pagans out there who judge tattoos, piercings and head coverings in Paganism as stupid, wrong, frivolous, done to stand out.\u00a0 But if it is an adherent of a more mainstream religion, those same Pagans are totally okay with it because \u201cTolerance! Acceptance! Respect!\u201d<\/p>\n

We take ourselves too seriously.\u00a0 We will judge the people in our community with a much harsher eye and more superior standard than when we judge other religious communities.\u00a0 Why is that?\u00a0 Why do we shout for acceptance from others, shout for acceptance of others \u2013 but we don\u2019t give our own religious community the same respect?<\/p>\n

I haven\u2019t the answer, but I can say this, I don\u2019t think we are doing ourselves any favours.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think people like Phelan MoonSong are the problem at all.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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