{"id":904,"date":"2016-09-14T08:28:24","date_gmt":"2016-09-13T22:28:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/?p=904"},"modified":"2018-01-24T13:32:14","modified_gmt":"2018-01-24T03:32:14","slug":"history-and-lies-or-whats-wrong-with-new-beliefs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/2016\/09\/history-and-lies-or-whats-wrong-with-new-beliefs.html","title":{"rendered":"History and Lies or What&#8217;s Wrong With New Beliefs"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>More misconceptions, but this time it\u2019s based around an idea that I have mentioned on other peoples blogs a few times this year, and a wonderful commenter mentioned <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/2016\/09\/pagan-misconceptions-and-why-i-hate-them.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">on my post the other day<\/a>, and thus reminded me of the fact I have been meaning to write about this topic for a while now.<\/p>\n<p>We will begin with the misconceptions themselves, or perhaps not just misconceptions, but these are things that began as lies, outright falsities, that have become misconceptions.\u00a0 The misconception that everything we believe and practice is necessarily based on some ancient pre-existing belief and practice.\u00a0 You will want examples of course, apparently I must provide examples.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_906\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-906\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-906\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/690\/2016\/09\/1024px-Ruins_of_Troy.jpg\" alt=\"If it isn't this old, it's no good\" width=\"600\" height=\"316\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-906\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">If it isn\u2019t this old, it\u2019s just no good. Picture by David Spender (originally posted to Flickr as Ruins of Troy) [<a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/2.0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC BY 2.0<\/a>], <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File%3ARuins_of_Troy.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Wicca The Ancient Religion<\/h2>\n<p>This is truly the oddest of the bunch, in my opinion.\u00a0 There are mass amounts of articles and books written that speak of the fact that Wicca is a modern religion, drummed up by Gardener \u2013 but possibly based on a mixture of other older traditions (including Christianity).\u00a0 And yet, it seems like the large majority of Wiccanate Pagans (but not Wiccans, who know better) believe that Wicca is a very ancient religion that survived through all the Christian dominated centuries, including those Inquisition centuries.\u00a0 But plenty of Wiccans were killed during those times too, that\u2019s why we take the Burning Times so seriously.<\/p>\n<p>Or something.<\/p>\n<h2>The Maiden-Mother-Crone Triple Goddess<\/h2>\n<p>Apparently originated in ancient Greek religion, or possibly Roman, or maybe it was Celtic\u2026 One would think the disparity over where it originated might clue people into the fact that it isn\u2019t historical at all \u2013 but apparently not.\u00a0 So it is that the MMC Triple Goddess existed in ancient times, I guess in multiple religions, and in Greece and Rome always had Hekate as the Crone.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/2016\/08\/30-days-of-hekate-9-mistakes-and-misconceptions.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Which She never was<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There are many three formed Goddesses, Hekate is one, but She is Herself in this triple form, three maidens who are somehow one being.\u00a0 The Morrigan is a triple Goddess, made up of three separate Goddesses \u2013 but whether She is a singular being of three merged deities, or simply it is the name for the group of three, like murder is a grouping of crows, is unknown to me.\u00a0 The Moirai, or Fates, are another form of triple Goddesses, but They are separate beings.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, there are plenty of triple Goddesses, of different types of triplicity \u2013 but the truth is, we haven\u2019t really found any historical precedence for the whole Maiden-Mother-Crone thing.\u00a0 It seems to have originated with Graves and some other people.<\/p>\n<h2>The Ancient Pagan Religion<\/h2>\n<p>Paganism was of course a large worldwide religion before Christianity came along and destroyed everything.\u00a0 Everyone everywhere was Pagan.\u00a0 One religion for all peoples.<\/p>\n<p>Yeh, it\u2019s hard just to type that.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know how anyone makes this mistake, but I see it quite a lot.\u00a0 How there was one worldwide religion followed by all peoples, everywhere, when there was also a multitude of different religions practiced by people of various nations \u2013 well I just don\u2019t know.\u00a0 Sometimes I think they are referring to Hellenism, or perhaps Religio Romano \u2013 problem Roman, because they did spend a lot of time conquering other places and that was the first religion that Christianity destroyed I suppose.<\/p>\n<p>There was never a religion called Paganism, there was never a people named Pagans.\u00a0 Pagan was, at first, a word meaning \u201ccountry dweller\u201d, which likely turned derogatory before Christianity came along \u2013 to describe country yokels probably.\u00a0 Then Christianity used it to refer to anyone who wasn\u2019t Christian, so it was used to describe people of many different religions.\u00a0 But it was not a religion and no one claimed the title for themselves like we modern Pagans have.\u00a0 And to that, it\u2019s still not actually a religion, just a category of religions and spiritualties.\u00a0 Some people call their personal religion \u201cPaganism\u201d because they don\u2019t have a better name for their religion, but it is not, by itself, an actual religion.<\/p>\n<h2>All The Holiday and Festivals<\/h2>\n<p>Every holiday that Christianity has claimed in some way, even those they would prefer to distance themselves from now \u2013 such as Christmas, Easter and Halloween \u2013 were all stolen from ancient Pagan festivals.\u00a0 Easter was stolen from the Heathen religion, the festival of Ostara for the Goddess Eostre \u2013 and also ties into Ishtar a Mesopotamian Goddess.\u00a0 Christmas is some ancient winter solstice festival, or it was stolen from Saturnalia, or, something.\u00a0 Halloween was of course Samhain, the Celtic festival.<\/p>\n<p>Halloween was indeed Samhain, this much is true. Christmas seems to be a conglomerate of multiple ancient festivals and traditions that ancient pagans took with them when they converted to Christianity \u2013 as well as some modern things,\u00a0 like Santa.\u00a0 But a lot of what we say about certain ancient festivals hasn\u2019t got much history actually backing it up.<\/p>\n<p>It would take more than this little post to go into it all, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/hearthwitchdownunder\/2016\/04\/misconceptions-easter.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">I have written about Easter-Eostre-Ishtar before if you want to check that out<\/a>.\u00a0 Suffice to say, Easter is most likely a modern festival and other than one writer named Bede, who is not entirely worthy of trust, there is no evidence of Eostre the Goddess or Her supposed festival.\u00a0 It indeed seems just as likely that we stole Ostara from the Christian Easter.<\/p>\n<p>So, some ancient festivals were stolen, or more likely moved with the converted \u2013 who had every right to continue their traditions after they converted \u2013 and some are more modern, or a mix of the two.\u00a0 But none of it is so bad as we like to make it out to be.<\/p>\n<h2>Why The Need For The Lies?<\/h2>\n<p>I am sure I could list more misconceptions of this nature, they are abundant indeed, and I could list things that aren\u2019t misconceptions but still\u00a0show our need to justify our present by the beliefs and practices of the past. \u00a0Like, why do we need to find evidence of past cultures beliefs in transgenderism? If it didn\u2019t exist, would it make trans people now not so legitimate?<\/p>\n<p>But let\u2019s move on before I write a novel.\u00a0 I really want to know why everything needs to have a basis in history.\u00a0 Why does Wicca need to be ancient to be legitimate?\u00a0 Why do our festivals need to be ancient (and stolen by Christians) to be legitimate?\u00a0 Why does the MMC Triple Goddess need to have historical precedence? Why does Hekate not have the right to show Herself as a crone in UPG without history falsely backing Her up?\u00a0 Why does Paganism have to be an ancient religion followed by everyone?<\/p>\n<p>Are we not legitimate now? Do we not matter now?\u00a0 Do we really need to pretend like a group of people just like us existed in ancient times and was destroyed by the evil of monotheism, to be worthy of existing now?<\/p>\n<p>What is so wrong with\u00a0being new and shiny?<\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with it.\u00a0 There is nothing wrong with the fact that Wicca is a modern religion, and Wiccans should be (and I think they are, it\u2019s Wiccanates who are defensive about it) proud of their new religion and just how much it has grown! I mean, it\u2019s pretty damn amazing when you think about it.\u00a0 Wicca is about a century old and look at it now \u2013 in the western world, you say Wicca, and you have a pretty good chance of the average non-Pagan knowing what you\u2019re talking about.\u00a0 Albeit they may have some misconceptions about it, not know much about it \u2013 but they recognise the name!<\/p>\n<p>The festivals are the same sort of thing.\u00a0 Who cares if Ostara is ancient or modern, stolen from Pagans or stolen by Pagans \u2013 it is here now and thousands of people celebrate this festival every year.\u00a0 That is pretty wonderful.\u00a0 And Eostre the Goddess, did She used to exist, was She worshipped, did She have a different name or what? We don\u2019t know, maybe we will never know \u2013 but She is here now and She has worshippers. \u00a0I repeat, it\u2019s\u00a0amazing.<\/p>\n<p>The MMC Triple Goddess is just like Eostre in that regard, She\/They have a massive following in the Pagan, Wiccan and Witch communities.\u00a0 She, whether She has always existed or not, whether She is ancient or modern, is here now and She is very popular, famous even.\u00a0 And while some of us don\u2019t like the whole Hekate Crone thing, that\u2019s our own problem, not anyone elses.\u00a0 Take away the false history and admit it is UPG, or SPG now, and we haven\u2019t a leg to stand on in our complaints.\u00a0 And in some modern beliefs\u00a0She IS the Triple Goddess, Maiden, Mother and Crone, all by Herself, fulfilling all roles.\u00a0 And, that\u2019s pretty cool really.<\/p>\n<p>I truly wish people would own up to the newness of all of these things, and other things.\u00a0 New shiny beliefs and practices and religions, they aren\u2019t something to be ashamed of.\u00a0 They are something to be proud of.\u00a0 Admit when it\u2019s new, admit when it\u2019s UPG, admit when its SPG.\u00a0 Be happy if you found something new, created something new, follow something new.\u00a0 Be amazed at all these new awesome things that so many people love, and you are part of.<\/p>\n<p>Seriously.\u00a0 Be amazed.\u00a0 Be happy.\u00a0 Be proud.\u00a0 Be awed.\u00a0 You are part of something grand.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Do we really need to pretend like a group of people just like us existed in ancient times and was destroyed by the evil of monotheism, to be worthy of existing now? 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