{"id":11408,"date":"2018-01-03T08:10:19","date_gmt":"2018-01-03T00:10:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/jacksonwu\/?p=11408"},"modified":"2017-12-07T11:10:33","modified_gmt":"2017-12-07T03:10:33","slug":"women-shame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jacksonwu\/2018\/01\/03\/women-shame\/","title":{"rendered":"Women and Ascribed Shame (by Moyra Dale)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><blockquote><p><em>Today\u2019s guest post comes from <a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/author\/moyra-d\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Moyra Dale<\/a>, who spent over two decades in the Middle East and holds doctorates in education and theology. See her full bio below.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It has been good to see further discussion in western journals and books on the subject of shame and honour in the past few years. We welcome the recognition of shame and honour as significant categories, both in the Bible and in contemporary cultures, including western society. US author Bren\u00e9 Brown in her book on <em>Women and Shame<\/em>, comments,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201c\u2026most of us, if not all, have built significant parts of our lives around shame. Individuals, families and communities use shame as a tool to change others and protect themselves.\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn1\" name=\"_ednref1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[i]<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>However while shame is a widespread dynamic, the expression of it is gendered in many cultures.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11409\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/576\/2017\/12\/Sahrawi_women_against_the_wall_of_shame.jpg\" alt=\"women\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\"><a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn3\" name=\"_ednref3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/a>David deSilva echoes the same intertwining of gendered honour and shame in many societies, where the woman \u201cis embedded in the identity and honour of some male (her father, if she is unmarried, her husband after she marries).\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn4\" name=\"_ednref4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[iv] <\/a><\/p>\n<p>The often-quoted Arab proverb, that \u201cthe honour of a man lies between the legs of a woman\u201d is also found in other cultures around the world, including Latin America.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn5\" name=\"_ednref5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[v]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bruce Malina, in his earlier book on the New Testament in the light of cultural anthropology, reminds us:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIn the area of individual, concrete behaviour, honor and shame are gender specific. \u2026 individual males symbol honor and individual females symbol shame. \u2026 feelings of \u2018shame\u2019 to reveal nakedness, modesty, shyness, blushing, timidity, restraint, sexual exclusiveness \u2013 all this is positive shame (<em>sic<\/em>) for the female and makes her honorable.\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn6\" name=\"_ednref6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[vi]<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I want to suggest three ways in which shame finds particular female embodiment across different cultures. The three dimensions are ascribed shame, embodied shame, and the female universal of menstruation. These are part of the lived experience of women around the world.<\/p>\n<p>If shame is symbolized more in women\u2019s bodies in cultures around the world, <em>how does the good news of Jesus Messiah speak to the embodied nature of our shame?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In this blog we will look at the first dimension, ascribed shame.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Ascribed shame<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Shame is ascribed proportionally more to women in many situations. Sometimes even when they are the victims they bear the blame for what has happened to them.<\/p>\n<p>Traditionally women have been held to be responsible when a couple has been unable to have children (or only produce daughters instead of sons).<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn7\" name=\"_ednref7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[vii]<\/a> After a divorce, a British report this month noted that women were found to be twice as likely as men to feel shame.<a href=\"#_edn8\" name=\"_ednref8\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[viii]<\/a> Even when it was the man who walked out of the marriage or initiated the divorce, the women (wives and daughters) describe their feelings of shame.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10346\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/576\/2017\/02\/wVlfnlTbRtK8eGvbnBZI_VolkanOlmez_005_opt.jpg\" alt=\"wVlfnlTbRtK8eGvbnBZI_VolkanOlmez_005_opt\" width=\"600\" height=\"314\"><\/p>\n<p>In New Testament times, it was almost impossible for women to initiate divorce: that power belonged to men.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn9\" name=\"_ednref9\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[ix]<\/a> Yet the Samaritan woman (John chapter 4) who had had five husbands is often described by commentators as an \u2018immoral woman\u2019. A group of Bangladeshi women, hearing the story, commented, \u201c<strong>She was probably unable to have children, which is why they kept divorcing her<\/strong>.\u201d Was she immoral or abused?<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Distorting shame<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Around the world, women are made to carry the responsibility for men\u2019s desire or violent actions. This is used to justify some of the required rules of women\u2019s covering in different cultures. In the west also, by preferring language which describes a woman as \u2018hot\u2019 rather than talking about his own sexual desires, the man is placing the locus of control within the woman\u2019s body, thus absolving him of responsibility for his sexual feelings \u2013 making it \u2018her fault\u2019 if he gets turned on \u2013 or if he doesn\u2019t.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn10\" name=\"_ednref10\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[x]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>When desire is wrongly directed it can demean and distort human relationships: and by ascribing to women the responsibility for creating desire, <strong>shame becomes embedded in women as female bodies<\/strong>.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn11\" name=\"_ednref11\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[xi]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Shockingly, even in situations of violence such as rape, women are frequently told it was their fault because of how they dressed or behaved. Is this the reason that some commentators prefer to ascribe blame to Bathsheba for David\u2019s actions? While they might question the power imbalance between a woman and the king, the Bible is clear in attributing fault to David.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn12\" name=\"_ednref12\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[xii]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And similarly in domestic violence, it is often assumed that the woman provoked the violence or was responsible for it. More frighteningly, women are encouraged to remain within the lived fear and shame of experiencing violence in the home \u2013 often even in the name of religion: and this occurs both in Islam and Christianity. <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9970\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/576\/2017\/02\/photo-1429277005502-eed8e872fe52_opt.jpg\" alt=\"photo-1429277005502-eed8e872fe52_opt\" width=\"600\" height=\"314\">Tucker describes a minister who was offering marriage counseling, telling her that submission to her violently abusive husband was submission to God \u2013 and that included not reporting her husband\u2019s sexual abuse of their foster daughter.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn13\" name=\"_ednref13\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[xiii]<\/a> And \u2018honour\u2019 killings endorse the ascription \u2013 and punishment \u2013 of shame in female bodies.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Ascribed shame \u2013 Public vindication<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Shame causes us to want to hide, to omit facts, lie or keep secrets, thinking that we will be rejected if people know the truth about us. However Travis Stewart suggests that the only way out of shame is <em>through<\/em> it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cWhen we allow ourselves to be known, especially at our worst,\u00a0we experience true acceptance and intimacy. Shame is grounded on the belief that if we are fully known we will not be accepted. Only by being fully known and accepted will we defeat shame.\u201d<a href=\"#_edn14\" name=\"_ednref14\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xiv]<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While shame is being increasingly recognized as a category in western behaviour, some suggest that it is more felt within the individual, rather than publically constructed. So we seek someone safe to whom we are able to reveal ourselves, in order to find freedom from shame.<\/p>\n<p>In collectivist cultures, shame is about the public perception of people. Our instinct, in dealing with people carrying shame, may be to talk with them secretly, wanting to protect them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So it can be confronting when we see how openly Jesus deals with women who are carrying ascribed shame.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Jesus\u2019 response to ascribed shame<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>In a stunning reversal of ascribed honour and shame, he affirms the love and forgiveness of the sinful woman at Simon the Pharisee\u2019s house in front of everyone present. In the synagogue he calls the crippled woman over to where he is teaching everyone, and heals her. And the woman who is healed of the flow of blood, he again calls out in front of everyone to name her affliction \u2013 and healing.<a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/#_edn15\" name=\"_ednref15\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[xv]<\/a> <em>Rather than colluding with shame\u2019s hiddenness, he exposes the situation for public vindication<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Women may tend to take in and hold what has happened to them, but in that holding of it is the crippling misery of shame. A public telling of the story may be how the trauma of shame is dealt with.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Bible publishes the story of people ascribed community shame: but then continues on with their stories and how God went on to use them in His purposes!<\/strong> Their stories include that of Rahab (a prostitute), Bathsheba (whether her story is read as adultery or rape), and also Peter (denying his Lord).<\/p>\n<p>When we see how Jesus dealt with people ascribed communal shame, we see the harmful hiddenness of shame unmasked, in a public statement of acceptance, forgiveness (when needed) and vindication, allowing the communal restoration of relationships and status.<\/p>\n<p>And these narratives point us towards how Jesus Messiah took our shame and that of all the world, enduring the public dishonor of the cross, and how he is publically vindicated, seated now at the right hand of the throne of God. Hence we also are now reconciled with God and exalted, seated with him in the heavenly places in Jesus Messiah.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This article is reposted with permission. It originally appeared May 27, 2017 on <a href=\"https:\/\/whenwomenspeak.net\/blog\/womens-shame-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">whenwomenspeak.net<\/a>,\u00a0 where you will find the series in which this post originally appeared.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Moyra Dale spent over two decades in the Middle East (particularly Egypt, Jordan, and Syria) with her family working in education, specializing in Adult Literacy (Arabic) and teacher training. She is an ethnographer whose research has included exploring adult literacy in Egypt and the women<\/em><em>\u2019s mosque movement in Syria through women<\/em><em>\u2019s accounts and understanding of their own lives and realities. Currently based in Melbourne, Australia, she writes, teaches, trains, and supervises students in Islam and cross-cultural understanding, with a focus on Muslim women.\u00a0<\/em><em>Moyra holds a PhD in Education (La Trobe University) and DTh (Melbourne School of Theology).<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>Top image: commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Sahrawi_women_against_the_wall_of_shame.jpg<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[i]<\/a> Brown, B., 2004. <em>Women &amp; Shame: Reaching Out, Speaking Truths and Building Connection. 3C Press<\/em>, Austin, Texas, p. 2.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\" name=\"_edn4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[iv]<\/a> deSilva, D.A., 2000. <em>Honor, Patronage, Kinship &amp; Purity. Unlocking the New Testament Culture<\/em>. IVP Academic, Illinois, p. 34.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref5\" name=\"_edn5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[v]<\/a> <em>Sex and World Peace<\/em>. Valerie M. Hudson, Bonnie Ballif-Spanvill, Mary Caprioli, Chad F. Emmett. (2012) p.8.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref6\" name=\"_edn6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[vi]<\/a> Malina, B.J., 2001. <em>The New Testament World. Insights from Cultural Anthropology<\/em>., 3rd ed. Westminster John Knox Press, Louisville, p.49.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref7\" name=\"_edn7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[vii]<\/a> Luke 1:7, 25<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref8\" name=\"_edn8\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[viii]<\/a> Tucker, R.A., 2016. <em>Black and White Bible, Black and Blue Wife. My Story of Finding Hope after Domestic Abuse<\/em>. Zondervan, Grand Rapids, MI, 169-170.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref9\" name=\"_edn9\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[ix]<\/a> Hence Jesus\u2019 warnings to those men who took too easy advantage of their power: Matthew 5:31-2.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref10\" name=\"_edn10\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[x]<\/a> Jessica Carpenter, Online: <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@emmalindsay\/why-does-dating-men-make-me-feel-like-shit-12c25e539021\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/medium.com\/@emmalindsay\/why-does-dating-men-make-me-feel-like-shit-12c25e539021<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref11\" name=\"_edn11\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xi]<\/a> So Tamar: 1 Samuel 13:1-20.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref12\" name=\"_edn12\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xii]<\/a> 2 Samuel 12:1-14, 1 Kings 15:5, Matthew 1:6.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref13\" name=\"_edn13\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xiii]<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-2589429\/How-divorce-carries-stigma-21st-century-Half-couples-split-say-feel-sense-shame-failure.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-2589429\/How-divorce-carries-stigma-21st-century-Half-couples-split-say-feel-sense-shame-failure.html<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref14\" name=\"_edn14\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xiv]<\/a> https:\/\/www.eatingdisorderhope.com\/information\/bulimia\/shame-and-bulimia.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref15\" name=\"_edn15\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[xv]<\/a> Luke 7:36-50, 13:10-17, 7:40-48.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today\u2019s guest post comes from Moyra Dale, who spent over two decades in the Middle East and holds doctorates in education and theology. 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