{"id":3924,"date":"2014-02-11T08:50:26","date_gmt":"2014-02-11T00:50:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jacksonwu\/?p=3924"},"modified":"2015-08-14T07:37:35","modified_gmt":"2015-08-14T12:37:35","slug":"3924","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jacksonwu\/2014\/02\/11\/3924\/","title":{"rendered":"Do We Give Chinese Christians Too Much Face?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6643 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/576\/2014\/02\/Missionaries_in_1900China.png\" alt=\"Missionaries_in_1900China\" width=\"232\" height=\"332\">Darren Carlson offers a good reminder to us all. In my opinion, he describes a problem that affects both missionaries as well as those who still live in their home countries (e.g. America, England, etc.).<\/p>\n<p>Darren leads a great organization called <a href=\"http:\/\/trainingleadersinternational.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Training Leaders International<\/a>. In his post \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/trainingleadersinternational.org\/blog\/584\/dont-glamorize-the-christians-over-there\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Don\u2019t Glamorize Christians \u2018Over There\u2019<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>\u201cThe grass is always greener on the other side. Or so we think.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>How many times have you heard the purity of the global church (especially the persecuted church) extolled in contrast to the vile American church? I\u2019ve lost count. There is usually a formula to how it is said: \u201cX Christians in X country risk X in order to share the gospel. X Christians have undivided and passionate devotion to Christ. They are way more committed to the gospel than the American Church.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>If it were so simple\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>We tend to glamorize things we know little about.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I suspect this influences missionaries in China more than people realize. In their admiration for Chinese pastors, missionaries can overlook or not pay close attention to certain weaknesses or sinful tendencies (like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jacksonwu\/2013\/07\/02\/why-chinese-pastors-cheat\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">pastors who cheat<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span style=\"color: #999999;\">Photo Credit: CC 2.0\/commons.wikimedia<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Darren Carlson offers a good reminder to us all. In my opinion, he describes a problem that affects both missionaries as well as those who still live in their home countries (e.g. America, England, etc.). Darren leads a great organization called Training Leaders International. In his post \u201cDon\u2019t Glamorize Christians \u2018Over There\u2019\u201d \u201cThe grass is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2368,"featured_media":6643,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,8,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3924","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-chinese-church","category-honor-shame-face","category-missiology"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Do We Give Chinese Christians Too Much Face?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Darren Carlson offers a good reminder to us all. 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