{"id":13277,"date":"2019-03-27T07:58:17","date_gmt":"2019-03-27T13:58:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/?p=13277"},"modified":"2019-03-27T07:58:17","modified_gmt":"2019-03-27T13:58:17","slug":"so-lets-talk-about-anti-vaxxers-shall-we","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2019\/03\/so-lets-talk-about-anti-vaxxers-shall-we.html","title":{"rendered":"So let’s talk about anti-vaxxers, shall we?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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So, apropos of nothing, let\u2019s think about anti-vaxxers for a bit, shall we?<\/p>\n

It seems to me that you can classify them into four groups.<\/p>\n

First are the traditional faith-healers.\u00a0 They\u2019re a small minority and their anti-vaccination stance is a small part of an overall rejection of modern medicine.\u00a0 We accept their refusal to vaccinate in a sort of choose-your-battles approach, and save our energy for the bigger questions of what to do when a parent from one of these groups (whether Christian Science or the small Christian faith-healing subcultures) refuses medical treatment for a child with a lifethreatening illness.<\/p>\n

Second, vaccine rejectors motivated by the use of fetal tissue.\u00a0 Catholics may know that vaccines are Vatican-approved despite the fact that some of them were developed using tissue of aborted fetuses, because of the remoteness of the connection.\u00a0 A Right To Life document<\/a> on the vaccines lists available \u201cnon-tainted\u201d vaccines and encourages readers to avail themselves of these, but notes that some parents have come to the conclusion that the circumstances of the original procurement of the tissue (these were abortions which were known to be elective and the specific parents were known to the researchers, in order to confirm that there were no health issues; this were not random fetuses procured only after the fact) were such that they cannot in good conscience use fetal tissue-based vaccines, and my tendency is to respect that.<\/p>\n

Third, anti-vaxxers specifically motivated by the claims that the MMR vaccine could cause autism.\u00a0 I gotta say, I just don\u2019t have any willingness to accept this type of anti-vaxxing, because it is simply so irrational.\u00a0 At least the faith-healers acknowledge that it\u2019s about their faith; the \u201cMMR vaccines cause autism\u201d folks claim to be pro-science but reject actual science with respect to the countless studies showing a lack of connection and demonstrating that even though autistic children regress at about the time of the MMR vaccine, that is coincidence only and it is simply a characteristic of (some types of) autism to have this regression, vaccine or no.<\/p>\n

And fourth, anti-vaxxers who reject vaccines because of the risks, admittedly real but actually very small in likelihood, of injury, or because of a generalized anxiety about vaccines paired with the absence of outbreaks that make the consequences of these diseases visible to them.\u00a0 These are the ones who appear to be growing in number, I presume in part because the MMR=autism folks, when their theory was disproven, turned to generalized protests about vaccine harm.\u00a0 And some of these folk get spooked by the vaccine schedules and think they\u2019re simply finding a middle ground by following alternate vaccine schedules they find online (see this WebMD article<\/a>).\u00a0 To some extent there is a patient-education issue here, in which they find lists of possible side effects and don\u2019t understand the risks one way or the other.\u00a0 (See \u201cExploring the Reasons Behind Parental Refusal of Vaccines<\/a>\u201d for some scholarly research.)<\/p>\n

But here\u2019s the issue:\u00a0 this is a Tragedy of the Commons sort of situation.\u00a0 These anti-vaxxers depend on the herd immunity the rest of us provide by vaccinating our children, while at the same time, they themselves opt out in order to avoid the risks that the rest of us accept as a part of our living in community.<\/p>\n

To go back to the themes of Alienated America<\/em><\/a> \u2014 well, it\u2019s not so much that vaccine resisters are disconnected from communities since, after all, they are likely better<\/em> connected up to a community (because that\u2019s how these ideas spread), though it might be the informal sort of community of neighbors or yoga class or Mommy and Me or whatever, but they reject the idea of having a responsibility to their (wider) community<\/em>, that is, as it extends beyond their narrow social group.<\/p>\n

And there\u2019s no easy answer here.\u00a0 How do protect the genuinely-held religious beliefs of parents (and personally I think those morally opposed to fetal tissue use have a stronger case) without providing a loophole for others to take advantage of, even when their only strongly held belief is \u201cI want to take advantage of everyone else doing what\u2019s right without actually doing so ourselves\u201d?<\/p>\n

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Image: \u00a0https:\/\/pixnio.com\/science\/medical-science\/baby-was-receiving-his-scheduled-vaccine-injection-in-his-right-thigh-muscle-ie-intramuscular-injection; public domain<\/span>.\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s not actually a needle.\u00a0 But good luck finding a public domain picture with an image of a baby getting a shot!<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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