{"id":18319,"date":"2022-06-28T06:43:04","date_gmt":"2022-06-28T12:43:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/?p=18319"},"modified":"2022-06-28T06:43:04","modified_gmt":"2022-06-28T12:43:04","slug":"on-the-end-of-roe-and-why-im-not-as-celebratory-as-i-would-like-to-be","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2022\/06\/on-the-end-of-roe-and-why-im-not-as-celebratory-as-i-would-like-to-be.html","title":{"rendered":"On the end of Roe, and why I&#8217;m not as celebratory as I would like to be"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_1385\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1385\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1385\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/533\/2015\/02\/Baby.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"513\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1385\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By Carin Araujo, http:\/\/www.prtc.net\/~carin (Stock.xchng #197853) [Copyrighted free use], via Wikimedia Commons<\/figcaption><\/figure>I keep revisiting this draft, which I started a long time ago, when the Supreme Court decision on <em>Dobbs<\/em> was first leaked.\u00a0 I\u2019ve written about abortion before, of course, but I keep wanting to express myself in just the right way, which is not only difficult, but, I\u2019m inclined to think, has gotten harder since I don\u2019t write as much these days.\u00a0 (Incidental update:\u00a0 I\u2019m now back to being an actuary, working full-time at a private-sector employer, which means less personal writing and, overall, an adjustment to moving hobby-type activities and errand and family activities to the evenings and weekends, without the same opportunity as I had, even when I was working at my prior job, to take a long lunch when I wanted to write something, since I am now working full rather than part-time.)<\/p>\n<p>It should not surprise readers that I am pleased that <em>Roe v. Wade<\/em> has been overturned.\u00a0 \u00a0For all who are horrified that the Supreme Court has made what they think is a \u201cpolitical\u201d decision, I view it as simply the undoing of a prior \u201cpolitical\u201d decision that should have never been made.\u00a0 For those who think that precedent should be sacrosanct, I will call to mind Brown v. Board of Education overturning Plessy v. Ferguson, and the numerous gun restrictionist advocates who believe that Heller, the decision determining\/confirming the individual right to bear arms, should be overturned.\u00a0 I also reject the idea that the Supreme Court should base its decisions on what appears to be fair or their perception of \u201cjustice\u201d rather than whether the Constitution has something to say about the matter, and that, where the Constitution is silent, especially when there is a conflict in rights, it is up to the legislatures to choose to legislate, or not, and decide where to draw the line on the subject at hand.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, I am distressed by what seems to be a sort of \u201cretaliatory\u201d lawmaking by \u201cblue\u201d states and poorly-thought-out overenthusiastic restrictions by \u201cred\u201d states.\u00a0 Illinois started out by removing all remaining restrictions from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aclu-il.org\/en\/campaigns\/illinois-reproductive-health-act-faq\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">its abortion legislation<\/a>, requiring that insurance cover abortion with copays no different than for \u201cother pregnancy care\u201d and permitting abortion at any time in the pregnancy for reasons of \u201cemotional health.\u201d\u00a0 Various other states have enacted similar legislation and now <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/health-shots\/2022\/06\/27\/1103479722\/as-states-ban-abortion-californians-open-their-arms-and-wallets\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">California is in the middle of enacting legislation<\/a> which would directly provide money to women to cover the costs of traveling to California for abortions.\u00a0 At the same time, various other states \u2014 Oklahoma comes to mind \u2014 are quickly passing bans, and other states have had \u201ctrigger laws\u201d all along, but the legislation does not seem to clearly spell out how women with ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages underway or life-threatening emergencies are protected (either that, or the activists who claim women are at risk are telling lies, but I follow enough twitter accounts that I should have seen clarifications, were anti-abortion activists working hard enough at getting the word out).\u00a0 I would certainly prefer some sort of middle-ground in which some degree of abortion is available everywhere, but restricted to the earliest stages, than an outcome in which abortion is completely banned in some states and enthusiastically celebrated in others, because, even though every abortion takes a human life, it is, simply, honestly, worse, the more developed the child is \u2014 and that\u2019s not just a matter of pain or some greater degree of sentience, but the fact that I think it harms all of us as a society, to accept the killing of what we all know is a human being, at a stage of development well beyond the \u201cit looks weird,\u201d because it suits our purposes.<\/p>\n<p>It dismays me that in the space of a decade we have gone from \u201cI am personally opposed to abortion but don\u2019t feel comfortable with a ban\u201d to \u201cabortion is a positive good.\u201d\u00a0 I have written about this in the past (or I think I have!), with respect to the sort of voices that are loud in the political discourse, the \u201cshout your abortion,\u201d the move from justifying abortion because of the difficult personal circumstances of women seeking abortion to the insistence that abortion is simply not a decision of any moral significance, but rather a routine medical procedure, to be avoided where possible only insofar as it is costlier and more inconvenient than consistent use of contraception.<\/p>\n<p>But I have now watched my Facebook feed and have seen even women who are involved in church activities in various ways, or at least sent their children to Catholic schools, adopt the line not just that \u201cI can\u2019t judge a woman who gets an abortion\u201d but that \u201cwomen need abortion\u201d \u2014 whether in difficult circumstances or just in any circumstance in which they don\u2019t want to be pregnant.\u00a0 And I have seen them trot out claims \u201cCatholics for Choice\u201d makes that Catholic theologians were just fine with abortion until \u201cquickening.\u201d\u00a0 (Not true \u2014 the <a href=\"https:\/\/christiansforsocialaction.org\/resource\/abortion-and-the-early-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">very earliest Christian writings outside of the Bible itself condemn abortion<\/a>, and the later distinctions about \u201censoulment\u201d or \u201cquickening\u201d were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pillarcatholic.com\/p\/abortion-conception-and-ensoulment\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a matter of how serious a sin abortion was<\/a>, not whether it was a sin.)\u00a0 It\u2019s deeply discouraging.\u00a0 How often do we now hear that without abortion, women cannot be the equals of men, because men, apparently, cannot be compelled to support their children, so women must conform to society\u2019s demands to be childless?<\/p>\n<p>The end of <em>Roe<\/em> ought to bring about a real reckoning:\u00a0 legislators in abortion-banning\/restricting states ought to be grappling with the best way to support women with unplanned pregnancies, and their children after they are born.\u00a0 These are not easy questions.\u00a0 The answer is not \u201cno one should have sex unless they are prepared to have a child,\u201d nor is it \u201cif charities step up, that\u2019ll solve everything.\u201d\u00a0 Likewise, it is not \u201cteen girls should be given implants when they reach puberty,\u201d or \u201cwe need to drill teens into using contraception,\u201d or \u201cfree childcare and generous child benefits for all.\u201d\u00a0 Maybe it\u2019s a mix of all of these \u2014 and it\u2019ll be complicated and require compromises and recognition that people won\u2019t always behave as we want them to, won\u2019t give up their babies to adoption however much that might seem like the practical choice, and that to whatever extent there are a greater number of babies born to poor women, both individual charities and the government at all levels will need to make greater provision for poor children.\u00a0 And however much politicians might have said in the past that they want to care for pregnant women and the children they bear, it is a heck of a lot easier to say \u201cwe tried but they refused our help\u201d than it is to deal with the real world situation of women and children in poverty.<\/p>\n<p>And it goes beyond this:\u00a0 our court system does not, to my understanding, make adequate provision for women to truly obtain child support orders from the fathers of their children, and does not enforce them.\u00a0 Why this is, I don\u2019t know \u2014 whether it\u2019s a casualty of general underfunding, or if the issue is around the cost of lawyers, or something else.\u00a0 And many young men would like to support the children they father but don\u2019t themselves have the skills to parent or to earn a living (and however much we agonize over young women with unplanned pregnancies, it is disadvantaged young men, more than young women, who end up as NEET \u2014 not in employment, education, or training).<\/p>\n<p>And, again, I\u2019m in Illinois, which is planning to become the \u201cabortion capital of the Midwest.\u201d\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chicagotribune.com\/business\/ct-biz-chicago-letter-ceo-abortion-rights-business-pitch-20220628-4iverzblsbh35mj7ylrdmskl2q-story.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Its politicians hope to lure companies here<\/a> with the promise that their female employees will have access to unrestricted abortion, and the local news reporting is one report after the next on how women need abortion.\u00a0 Chicago\u2019s mayor Lori Lightfoot told Justice Thomas \u201cf* you\u201d and there was a local protest last night, too, with a \u201cF* YOU\u201d sign prominently in front.<\/p>\n<p>I am not good at explaining my views, certainly not in person, and, judging by how long I\u2019ve been plunking away at what is in the end not a very coherent post, not on paper either.\u00a0 But I am deeply saddened every time I see protests and read commentary that insists that women cannot achieve equality unless we can destroy unborn babies whenever we don\u2019t want them.<\/p>\n<p>Once, many years ago, I supported with monthly donations a local crisis pregnancy center.\u00a0 They closed down and it wasn\u2019t entirely clear to me whether it was lack of donations or lack of clientele, and now I\u2019m not even sure where to start to find a new organization to donate to.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, all that being said, as I said, some time ago I started to draft a post by going back to what I had written in the past, but I didn\u2019t really know how to fit it all together.\u00a0 For what it\u2019s worth, here\u2019s that review of my prior writing on the issue.<\/p>\n<p>On May 17, 2019, I wrote, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2019\/05\/the-statistics-on-abortion-and-social-class.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The statistics on abortion and social class<\/a>,\u201d in which I explored data around women\u2019s income level and abortion, looking at data cited at Brooking, and finding that, in a national sample, among unmarried women not actively trying to get pregnant, poor women had a substantially higher rate of getting pregnant in a given year relative to non-poor women (9% for those literally below the poverty rate vs. rates hovering at 5% for women at income tiers above this, and 3% for women above 400% of the poverty line), but were also less likely to get abortions (9% of those pregnancies, vs. 32% for the wealthiest group of women), as a proportion of pregnancies, resulting in overall abortion rates that were about the same for these income classes.<\/p>\n<p>On January 30, 2019, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2019\/01\/in-the-news-more-wins-for-abortion-supporters.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I looked into an emerging trend of bills<\/a> claiming to \u201ccodify Roe v. Wade\u201d but which really rejected any limits on abortion, based on the rationale that those late abortions \u201chardly ever happen,\u201d and did some math, comparing a Guttmacher report that 1.2% of abortions occur after 20 weeks to the latest available statistics on murder:\u00a0 17,284 cases in 2017 in the US, or 0.005% of the total American population.\u00a0 We do not shrug off murder as happening so infrequently that it is not worth making criminal, nor do we say that the cost of prosecuting murder cases is too high a burden, neither in terms of the dollars spent nor the burden placed on those who are ultimately found innocent, but abortion rights supporters are in fact quite willing to say that those babies are mere collateral damage who must be sacrificed to keep women\u2019s rights intact.<\/p>\n<p>Separately, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2019\/05\/just-how-far-are-we-willing-to-trust-women.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">on May 29, 2019<\/a>, I dug up the statistics on children who died of abuse or neglect \u2014 a total of 1,720 in 2017 \u2014 to make the point that a justification for legal abortion at the later stages of pregnancy of \u201cit hardly happens\u201d is not something we deem acceptable in other circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>On December 6, 2016, I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2016\/12\/economist-thinks-knows-reduce-abortion-eh-not-much.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">wrote about an Economist article<\/a> which claimed that the path towards reduced abortion was for governments to make hormonal contraception widely available and free of charge.\u00a0 They cited various countries which culturally reject IUDs and the like, including, most notably, Japan, and, among European countries, variations in the level of government subsidy of hormonal and highly-effective contraceptives.\u00a0 But they failed to make their case when countries they cited as having free highly-effective contraceptives, such as the UK, had higher abortion rates than countries with copays, such as Germany.\u00a0 I no longer have an Economist subscription, so I\u2019ve <a href=\"https:\/\/worldpopulationreview.com\/country-rankings\/abortion-rates-by-country\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">pulled up another link with abortion rates<\/a>, which finds that IUD-fearing Greece\u2019s rate is 5 per 1,000 women, copay-requiring Germany\u2019s rate is 7.8 per 1,000 women, condom-reliant Japan\u2019s is 12.3, and free-contraception UK\u2019s is 17.\u00a0 The US, depressingly, is one of the highest, at 20.8 \u2014 of \u201cWestern\u201d countries, excluding former Warsaw Pact countries, there is none higher.<\/p>\n<p>On February 11, 2016, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2016\/02\/f-a-q-on-late-term-abortion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I put together info from various sources on late-term abortion<\/a>. Not much is particularly new but I did unearth a case of a late-term abortion, at 28 weeks, which made the news because it was a rare instance of prosecuting the doctor because the state\u2019s law requires medical necessity and it was acknowledged by the woman herself that she wanted the abortion because the father of the child had left her.\u00a0 In the end, nothing much happened except a plea deal to cop to falsifying medical records, because he had documented the abortion as occurring at 24 weeks.\u00a0 One again my purpose was to push back on the claim, being made by Clinton and Sanders at the time, that late-term abortions only ever happen because of medical necessity.\u00a0 I also dug into issues of the Catholic ethical directives, though with acknowledged \u201cI am not a doctor\u201d limitations.<\/p>\n<p>I also observed, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2016\/01\/what-do-113-female-lawyers-tell-us-about-abortion-and-abortion-alternatives.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">in a January 22, 2016 blog post<\/a>, that the old notion of \u201cwe can find common ground in making abortion rare\u201d had disappeared, and replaced by \u201cabortion is a common-sense routine medical procedure as a form of back-up contraception.\u201d\u00a0 And, honestly, I\u2019m kind of surprised that I hadn\u2019t written more on this last topic, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2020\/02\/confessions-of-a-never-dem-er.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">on February 8, 2020<\/a>, I wrote that the Democrats\u2019 extremism on abortion, their refusal to accept any restrictions at all, their demand for federal funding, and the new mandate by abortion supporters, that even suggesting there is any reason for moral hesitancy when it comes to abortion, is verboten, meant that I cannot vote for a Democratic politician.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I keep revisiting this draft, which I started a long time ago, when the Supreme Court decision on Dobbs was first leaked.\u00a0 I\u2019ve written about abortion before, of course, but I keep wanting to express myself in just the right way, which is not only difficult, but, I\u2019m inclined to think, has gotten harder since [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2209,"featured_media":1385,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[198],"class_list":["post-18319","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-abortion"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>On the end of Roe, and why I&#039;m not as celebratory as I would like to be<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I keep revisiting this draft, which I 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