{"id":18584,"date":"2023-09-23T21:23:20","date_gmt":"2023-09-24T03:23:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/?p=18584"},"modified":"2023-09-23T21:23:20","modified_gmt":"2023-09-24T03:23:20","slug":"synod-pov-straight-talk-on-doctrine-development","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2023\/09\/synod-pov-straight-talk-on-doctrine-development.html","title":{"rendered":"Synod POV: straight talk on doctrine “development”"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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the crowd watching the Pope, own work<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>

A follow-up from my prior post<\/a>, again referencing James Martin\u2019s article:<\/p>\n

Now, I cannot speak for my fellow synod members, but I doubt that any members wish to change the essentials of the faith. (I don\u2019t.) But anyone who knows any church history also knows that church teaching has developed dramatically on a variety of topics, including slavery, women\u2019s roles, ecumenical relations, the liturgy, limbo, capital punishment and so on. As Pope Francis said in a\u00a0conversation<\/a>\u00a0with Portuguese Jesuits during World Youth Day, \u201cdoctrine also progresses, expands and consolidates with time and becomes firmer, but is always progressing.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Let\u2019s remember this:<\/p>\n

The pope is not an economist. The pope is not a scientist. The pope is not an expert in sociology or psychology. The pope is charged with safeguarding the universal truths of the Catholic Church, but cannot be expected to be an expert in applying those truths to particular economic situations or particular forecasts of future technological impacts.<\/p>\n

When a pope speaks on immigration, he can apply universal moral truths to the situation as best as he is able.\u00a0 But he cannot claim to be an expert on how mass migration from one country to another affects the well-being of people in those countries, in the way that an economist (for example) can, nor can he discern the differences between one situation and another.\u00a0 The Holy Spirit does not give people special knowledge in academic fields or special foreknowledge of what will happen in a given situation.<\/p>\n

When a pope speaks on the environment, he can speak, in general, on care for creation so that generations to come do not suffer from our short-term desires for more enjoyment or comfort.\u00a0 But he is not an expert in technology.\u00a0 The Holy Spirit does not give him a special gift in the assessment of whether nuclear power really has substantial risks or whether they are overblown, or whether reprocessing fuel is a good or a bad idea.\u00a0 The Holy Spirit does not enable him to predict future tech developments, etc.<\/p>\n

When a pope speaks on labor unions, again, we cannot expect him to understand the particulars of any given country.\u00a0 For example, should he know that in many states in the United States, public sector labor unions\u2019 primary way of winning generous contracts is not by negotiation and threat of strikes but by plowing their funds into elections?\u00a0 Should he know that the Big 3 automakers in the United States in the 60s and 70s acceded to generous contract demands and found themselves unable to compete with Japan in the 80s?\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n

And \u2014 I have the feeling I\u2019ve addressed this before but let\u2019s take Martin\u2019s examples.\u00a0 Some are fairly clear.<\/p>\n

Slavery:\u00a0 it\u2019s important to recognize that church doctrine on slavery developed as an (admittedly delayed) reaction to slavery itself changing.\u00a0 Slavery in ancient Rome, and serfdom in the European Middle Ages was something quite different than chattel slavery as it developed in the New World.<\/p>\n

Usury:\u00a0 the prohibit on interest came from a time and place when charging interest meant people being mired in debt-servitude from which they could never escape.\u00a0 As interest became a part of a \u201cnormal\u201d functioning economic system, prohibitions ended.<\/p>\n

Capital punishment:\u00a0 honestly, I think the pope has gone too far, in making the declaration that capital punishment is no longer acceptable anywhere, for all time, going forward.\u00a0 No, I don\u2019t think we will head into some future zombie apocalypse, but it is presumptuous for the pope to have such certitude about the future.<\/p>\n

What about limbo?\u00a0 A quick google search<\/a> tells me that there was never a single \u201cofficial\u201d church teaching on what happens to the unbaptized, especially unbaptized babies, but rather, there was a diversity of opinion even among the Church Fathers and medieval theologians, but that this was all perceived of as speculation.<\/p>\n

As to ecumenical relations, well, that\u2019s probably the one item where I don\u2019t have a solid enough knowledge to say, \u201cyes, church doctrine changed\u201d or \u201cno it didn\u2019t\u201d (without resorting to a \u201cno True Scotsman\u201d approach of \u201cit wasn\u2019t really doctrine if it changed\u201d).<\/p>\n

Women\u2019s roles?\u00a0 Not sure what church teaching he is referencing here, because last I knew, \u201cwomen should stay at home with the children\u201d was hardly a \u201cchurch teaching\u201d!<\/p>\n

And \u201cthe liturgy\u201d?\u00a0 Again, this isn\u2019t \u201cchurch teaching\u201d \u2014 it\u2019s just the way we worship.<\/p>\n

So to me it is quite reasonable to be concerned about Martin, Cupich, and the Pope himself aggressively promoting the idea of doctrine \u201cdeveloping,\u201d since the objective really seems to be moving beyond \u201cchanges happen in response to a changed environment\u201d to \u201cdoctrine is whatever the Pope says it is.\u201d\u00a0 And when I made my profession of faith, it was to \u201call that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God.\u201d\u00a0 I did not profess to believe in a single man, the Pope and his successors, as the determiner of what I might be called on to believe in the future, nor did I sign on to changing my beliefs at whatever point in the future any pope or bishop might have a better idea, least of all if he thinks a change in doctrine will better fill pews and coffers.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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