{"id":5814,"date":"2017-01-09T09:06:51","date_gmt":"2017-01-09T15:06:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/?p=5814"},"modified":"2017-01-09T09:06:51","modified_gmt":"2017-01-09T15:06:51","slug":"thoughts-russia-election","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/janetheactuary\/2017\/01\/thoughts-russia-election.html","title":{"rendered":"A few thoughts on Russia and the election"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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\u201cDid cyberhacks hurt Clinton?\u201d<\/p>\n

That\u2019s the title of an article in the Chicago Tribune which appears in the online LA Times with the headline, \u201cU.S. intelligence report doesn\u2019t say whether Russian hacking helped elect Donald Trump<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

The key points of the article:<\/p>\n

The new intelligence report concludes that Putin sought to help Trump win the presidency, but doesn\u2019t make any claims about whether the e-mail hacks and other Russian actions actually made the difference in enabling Trump to win the election. \u00a0In fact, political analysts decline to state so definitively, either, but<\/p>\n

In [Clinton aides\u2019] view, the biggest problem was that voters conflated the flood of damaging emails from Russian hacks with mounting concerns about Clinton\u2019s use of a private email account when she headed the State Department, adding to distrust and unease about her.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

What\u2019s more, the report concludes that the Russian officials orchestrating the actions didn\u2019t think what they were doing was actually going to lead to a Trump victory, based on, for instance, Russia Today (RT) videos complaining of (expected) election fraud in Clinton\u2019s favor. \u00a0(The article doesn\u2019t directly state, but I\u2019ve read elsewhere, that the objective was to set Clinton up as having been illegitimately elected.)<\/p>\n

The cumulative impact of not just the DNC leaks and the Podesta e-mails, but also the twitter bots, the RT videos, the \u201cfake news\u201d videos, and so on, was to reinforce existing concerns about Clinton, that she was an untrustworthy Washington insider, \u201cthat there was one set of rules for Hillary Clinton and another set of rules for everybody else.\u201d<\/p>\n

So what do you make of this?<\/p>\n

First question: \u00a0did Russia interfere with the U.S. election?<\/p>\n

Well, OK, that\u2019s actually a somewhat incomplete question.<\/p>\n

Instead, a two-part question: \u00a0did Russia interfere with the U.S. election in a way that calls into question the validity of the election? \u00a0And did Russia interfere in a way that violates international norms?<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know . . . I just can\u2019t get all that upset about any of this.<\/p>\n

It just seems too much par-for-the-course. \u00a0 I remember various claims back in the 80s that anti-nuke protest groups were being secretly funded by the Soviet Union (though Wikipedia says<\/a> this was unfounded). \u00a0It\u2019s like a GEICO commercial: \u00a0\u201cif you\u2019re a (former) superpower being run by an authoritarian government looking to gain power, you manipulate elections in other countries. \u00a0It\u2019s what you do.\u201d<\/p>\n

Besides which, remember when Wikileaks revealed that the U.S. was spying on Germany, and Merkel in particular? \u00a0Various reports said something along the lines of, \u201csure, she called in the ambassador for a dressing-down, but she knew that this is just routine, and every country spies on everyone else, even if they\u2019re allies.\u201d<\/p>\n

If there were signs that the Russians, or any other foreign actor, had actually hacked into vote tallying systems, this would be a cause for serious concern. \u00a0But for them to have hacked and phished to obtain information, and to have released the results, and to have engaged in a propaganda campaign? \u00a0It feels, to me, absolutely expected. \u00a0And to place the hacking in an overall context of twitter bots, and fake news, and the like \u2014 well, that\u2019s conflating criminality with dirty tricks.<\/p>\n

Now, to be sure, we could wring our hands about ill-gotten information. \u00a0It\u2019s like a jury being told to disregard testimony, I suppose. \u00a0But is there any reason why voters should discard, in their deliberations, the information that the DNC helped Clinton, and that Clinton talked about being two-faced in her Wall Street speeches, while, at the same time, leaks that were critical of Donald Trump (that is, the old tax return, and the hot-mike recorded \u201cgroping\u201d statements) were fair game \u2013 just because in the former case there is significant circumstantial evidence that this came from a State actor? \u00a0For that matter, remember when Palin\u2019s e-mails were hacked by some joker who guessed at her password? \u00a0It was treated as a joke, really: \u00a0\u201cha, ha, Palin is so stupid as to have had an easy-to-guess password on her gmail account.\u201d \u00a0And recall that there were many people calling on individuals connected with The Apprentice to violate non-disclosure agreements to leak suspected on-tape proof of Trump\u2019s misbehavior, and even some urging IRS employees to pilfer and publicize Trump tax returns.<\/p>\n

For that matter, it seem to me that the anti-Clinton messages of these leaked e-mails would have, potentially, discouraged Sanders supporters and perhaps led some of them to vote for Jill Stein or stay home entirely. \u00a0I have a hard time believing that these e-mails caused people to actually shift their votes to Trump. \u00a0Now, I personally would prefer a system in which third parties could play a meaningful role in American politics (see, for instance, my Electoral College proposal<\/a>), but as it is, it\u2019s hard to make the argument \u201cthe election was interfered with because unauthorized-but-true information caused voters to stay home or waste their votes\u201d \u2014 especially when the larger factor keeping some voters, say in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, at home was the belief, based on polling at the time, that Trump had no chance, so that their action would have no effect on the election.<\/p>\n

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