{"id":12028,"date":"2010-12-21T05:06:59","date_gmt":"2010-12-21T11:06:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/?p=12028"},"modified":"2010-12-21T09:59:27","modified_gmt":"2010-12-21T15:59:27","slug":"discrimination-rjs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2010\/12\/21\/discrimination-rjs\/","title":{"rendered":"Discrimination? (RJS)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>We will take a brief break from consideration of Denis O. Lamoureux\u2019s book <strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1556355815?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1556355815\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Evolutionary Creation<\/a><\/em><\/strong> returning to Ch 5 next week.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of people forwarded an article to me \u2013 published in a number of papers last Friday: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2010\/12\/17\/AR2010121701178.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Scientist Alleges Religious Discrimination<\/a>. Just a teaser here \u2013 read the whole article by following the link to the Washington Post site.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>LOUISVILLE, Ky. \u2014 An astronomer argues that his Christian faith and his  peers\u2019 belief that he is an evolution skeptic kept him from getting a  prestigious job as the director of a new student observatory at the  University of Kentucky.<\/p>\n<p>Martin Gaskell quickly rose to the top of a list of applicants being  considered by the university\u2019s search committee. One member said he was  \u201cbreathtakingly above the other applicants.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Others openly worried his Christian faith could conflict with his duties  as a scientist, calling him \u201csomething close to a creationist\u201d and  \u201cpotentially evangelical.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is quite the article \u2013 and opens up some interesting questions for conversation. Another article on the subject was published in the New York Times on Saturday (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/12\/19\/us\/19kentucky.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Astronomer Sues University of Kentucky<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What goes through your mind when you read an article like this?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know any of the details about the situation at the University of Kentucky beyond the articles linked above and I don\u2019t know Dr. Gaskell.\u00a0 I generally hold a level of skepticism or at least agnosticism with such news articles until additional information becomes available. There may be facts not apparent in this short report. However, the story is plausible \u2013 while such expressions toward evangelical faith are not everyday occurrences, they certainly occur. From the article it appears that the problem with Dr. Gaskell is not so much his faith \u2013 but that he was open and on record about his faith, made some comments that could raise questions. He was judged by some as guilty by assumption and association \u2013 despite the fact that he affirms both an old earth and evolutionary biology:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Gaskell said he is not a \u201ccreationist\u201d and his views on evolution are in  line with other biological scientists. In his lecture notes, Gaskell  also distances himself from Christians who believe the earth is a few  thousand years old, saying their assertions are based on \u201cmostly very  poor science.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>His attorney, Frank Manion, is quoted as saying:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cUnfortunately too many people get hung up on the idea that you have to be  one extreme or the other,\u201d \u2026\u00a0 They say \u201cyou can\u2019t be  a religious believer and somebody who accepts evolution, which is clearly not  true. And Gaskell\u2019s a perfect example of that.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is an interesting case. There were probably at least a couple of Christians who were involved in the search process at some level \u2013 yet other faculty members felt comfortable using derogatory terms responding to a perceived threat without fear of opposition and without realization that most Christians in the sciences are convinced of the reliability of both mainstream science (without the atheistic and purely materialistic trappings) and the truth of the gospel.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>The story also illustrates the power of internet archives<\/strong><\/em> \u2013 and the influence this has on the availability of formerly obscure information and details about people. From the NY Times story:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For the plaintiff, the smoking gun is an e-mail dated Sept. 21, 2007,  from a department staff member, Sally A. Shafer, to Dr. Cavagnero and  another colleague. Ms. Shafer wrote that she did an Internet search on  Dr. Gaskell and found links to his notes for a lecture that explores,  among other topics, how the Bible could relate to contemporary  astronomy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The conflict started, apparently, when references to a lecture reconciling science and faith given a decade earlier was unearthed in a routine web search. The interface between science an faith is no longer a topic on which it is safe to speculate or think in public \u2013 a tentative suggestion a decade ago can become enshrined as personal position today.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 100px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2010\/12\/Main_Bldg_UK-wikipedia.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12203\" title=\"Main_Bldg_(UK)-wikipedia\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2010\/12\/Main_Bldg_UK-wikipedia.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"243\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>A code of silence.<\/strong><\/em> Part of the problem highlighted with Dr. Gaskell\u2019s case is not discrimination against Christian faith  \u2013 but the complete breakdown we have in dialog on issues of science and the Christian faith.\u00a0\u00a0 The situation at the University of Kentucky can be put into context if we look at something of the culture in the secular academy. I wrote a series of posts this last spring on Elaine   Ecklund\u2019s book <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0195392981?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0195392981\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Science vs Religion<\/a><\/strong><\/em> (you can find the links in the science archive on the sidebar).   In her survey (~1700 scientists) and interviews (275 scientists)\u00a0 of scientists at \u2018elite\u2019 universities Ecklund found that\u00a0 very few identify as   evangelical (2%) \u2013  although a somewhat larger percentage practice what   we would consider an  evangelical faith. The label \u201cevangelical\u201d  carries  baggage that many  are unwilling to embrace.\u00a0 Many of these  scientists  keep a low profile on all fronts, practicing what Ecklund  calls a  closeted faith. She also notes that Universities tend to have  what  sociologists  refer to as a strong culture. In this culture  religion is  not an  acceptable topic of discussion, except, perhaps, in  an abstract  academic  fashion; or often as a subject of ridicule,  humor, and\/or  frustration.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>One characteristic of  this strong culture is that it is  generally considered better not to  discuss religion than to discuss it.  When religion unavoidably comes  up, such as when discussing news events,  the conversation ends  abruptly. Or everyone \u2013 religious and  nonreligious alike \u2013 tacitly  agrees that religion is generally negative  and has a negative  relationship to science, or at least that the subject  is delicate and  best avoided. The hallmark of a strong culture is that  there is  widespread agreement about certain issues \u2013 in this case, the  issue of  suppressing religion \u2013 even in the context of individual  dissent. Most  relevant here, strong departmental cultures related to  religion made  religious scientists feel as if they could not talk openly  about being  religious because they might face negative sanctions from  their  colleagues. When religious individuals participated in and upheld  the  strong culture surrounding religion in their particular departments,   they perpetuated a closeted faith. (p. 44)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To take a public stand, to go on record as a Christian, is to align oneself, perhaps irrevocably, with the outspoken extreme.\u00a0 One\u2019s actual position on the issues of relevance, such as science and evolution, is secondary.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>A code of silence within the church too.<\/strong><\/em> Of course  strong cultures are not limited to Universities and  academic  departments in the sciences and social sciences. Churches can  also be  strong cultures \u2013 where it is inappropriate to speak about the   interface of science and faith or the questions raised by science and   ancient Near East and biblical studies about aspects of our received   expression of the faith. As there is a tacit assumption of secularism  within the university, there is within large swaths of our church, a  tacit assumption of anti-evolutionism and rejection of scholarship. The strong culture demanding silence on religious issues within the academy  is coupled with a strong culture demanding silence on scientific issues  within the church. Those who practice a closeted faith within the  academy turn around and practice a closeted scholarship within the  church.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The  scientists with a faith tradition whom I  interviewed  often displayed \u2026  an identity that is many-sided and  fluid. \u2026  Religious scientists often  feel embattled, both in their  scientific and  religious communities. At  work, they might experience  subtle  discrimination. At church, if they  were to express all facets  of their  identities as scientists, they might  face misunderstanding  and  rejection, especially within religious  communities that sometimes   question (or outright reject) the theory of  evolution. (p. 47)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This can, to put it mildly, make life difficult and leaves a question about how to move forward and break the stalemate. There is no quick and easy solution.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What do you think of the situation at the University of Kentucky? Is this surprising or only to be expected?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>If you wish to contact me directly you may do so at rjs4mail[at]att.net<\/p>\n<p>If interested you can subscribe to a full text feed of my posts  at <a href=\"http:\/\/musingsonscience.wordpress.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Musings on Science and Theology<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We will take a brief break from consideration of Denis O. Lamoureux\u2019s book Evolutionary Creation returning to Ch 5 next week. A couple of people forwarded an article to me \u2013 published in a number of papers last Friday: Scientist Alleges Religious Discrimination. 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