{"id":1306,"date":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","date_gmt":"2006-05-12T10:45:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2006\/05\/12\/mclarens-secret-5\/"},"modified":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","modified_gmt":"2006-05-12T10:45:24","slug":"mclarens-secret-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/05\/12\/mclarens-secret-5\/","title":{"rendered":"McLaren&#8217;s Secret 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In this last post on Brian McLaren\u2019s <em>The Secret Message of Jesus<\/em> we will look at his last four chapters. Essentially our conversation today begins by asking if the kingdom is all-inclusive or are there borders? \u201cCan any meaningful kingdom, including the kingdom of God, exist with no boundaries, no outside?\u201d (163). Is there a more emerging question?<!--more|inline--><br>\nMcLaren sees two problems: \u201cdangers of hostile exclusion and dangers of naive inclusion\u201d (165).  His theory is that the kingdom is about \u201cpurposeful inclusion.\u201d What is your thought on this one? \u201c\u2026 the kingdom of God seeks to include all who want to participate in and contribute to its purpose, but it cannot include those who oppose its purpose\u201d (167). He examines the well-known \u201che who is not against us\u2026\u201d and \u201che who is not with me\u2026 scatters.\u201d<br>\nOn the future of the kingdom, McLaren opts for the view that God made the world and is watching as a parent watches the development of a child. Jesus\u2019 eschatology is not prediction of a time-table but warnings and promises. (See here M. Borg\u2019s dissertation.) He has a brief escapade into Revelation. Do we want conventional futures, counterfutures, or a creative future? Jesus summons us to the last option.<br>\nChp. 20 is about the harvest of the kingdom: heaven! Jesus\u2019 vision is earthy. Jesus believed in a real resurrection at which time evil is destroyed. And this should lead us to focus our life now on God\u2019s vision for his created world.<br>\nFinal chp.: Seeing the Kingdom. There is a longing, there is quest of the beautiful, and at times we catch glimpses of that kingdom glory. McLaren relates some of his own glimpses of the kingdom \u2014 like lines in Handel\u2019s <em>Messiah<\/em>.<br>\nMonday I\u2019ll try to post something comparing Wright\u2019s book and McLaren\u2019s.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this last post on Brian McLaren\u2019s The Secret Message of Jesus we will look at his last four chapters. Essentially our conversation today begins by asking if the kingdom is all-inclusive or are there borders? \u201cCan any meaningful kingdom, including the kingdom of God, exist with no boundaries, no outside?\u201d (163). 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