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Stephen Shields <\/a>has a lucid and useful post on Mark Driscoll<\/a>\u2018s use of Ed Stetzer\u2019s categories of emerging. That set of categories was relevants, reconstructionists, and revisionists \u2014 those who are ministering to, those who are ministering with, and those who are ministering as postmodernists. Driscoll adds a category.
\nThere is no reason to get into who\u2019s right and who\u2019s wrong, for (as postmodernity has taught all of us, whether we are pomo or not) such categories are imposed from without in order to explain and other categories might explain other features. Their degree of correspondence is shaped in part by our intent in using them. I do think, personally, that these categories from Stetzer and Driscoll are of some use for description \u2014 of a theological or missional sort, but they do not always correspond on the ground to what is happening.
\nBut, Driscoll has added \u201cReformed\u201d to the 3Rs of Stetzer. Driscoll is himself a Reformed emerging missionary. A reformissionary.
\nHere\u2019s my take: his new category of Reformed Emerging is not a different kind of emerging but instead cuts across two of the already clarified groups \u2014 the reformed group is the theological standpoint of some who are \u201crelevants\u201d and some who are \u201creconstuctionists.\u201d I take it that the revisionists really can\u2019t be Reformed without some serious finger-crossing.
\nOverall, though, I find the same problem here that is often the case by those who want to define emerging and Emergent Village: to define emerging or emergent by a theological orientation fails to engage emerging and Emergent Village where it really is. These groups are not primarily a theological orientation but an ecclesiological vision and praxis, and a theology that emerges from that praxis. Now it just might be the case that Reformed reconstructionists and relevants are, in fact, at the ground level genuine theological orientations rather than missionally-shaped communities.
\nSomeone tell me because I\u2019m not sure, but it seems Driscoll would distinguish between \u201cmissionary\u201d (which is mostly evangelistic) and \u201cmissional.\u201d I noticed his use of the term \u201cmissionary\u201d as he began to define the Reformed emerging group.
\nDefining this movement is a hobby-horse for some, but once we\u2019ve got it figured out for ourselves, it is time to move on to praxis and to get post-definitional.
\nAnd when we get there we will also become post-categorical. That is what Jesus prayed for in John 17, and it is what I pray for. I hope you do, too. It\u2019s called \u201cdeep ecclesiology.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"