{"id":17914,"date":"2011-06-30T13:01:41","date_gmt":"2011-06-30T18:01:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/?p=17914"},"modified":"2011-06-28T07:04:22","modified_gmt":"2011-06-28T12:04:22","slug":"whos-in-your-tribe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2011\/06\/30\/whos-in-your-tribe\/","title":{"rendered":"Who&#8217;s in your tribe?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>At Uncommon Descent the author (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uncommondescent.com\/intelligent-design\/you-cant-have-them-atheists\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>VJTorley<\/strong><\/a>) contends that the Atheists have been claiming as members of their tribe some who don\u2019t belong in the tribe. In other words, some criticize religion (Twain) while others are seemingly indifferent (Einstein), and others make some strong existential comments (Satre), but that doesn\u2019t make them out and out atheists.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The atheist blog\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ungodlynews.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ungodly News<\/a> has just released a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ungodlynews.com\/p\/periodic-table-of-atheists-and.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Periodic Table of Atheists and Antitheists<\/a>. While I admire its artistry, I deplore its lack of accuracy. At least three of the people listed as atheists or anti-theists were nothing of the sort: Albert Einstein, Mark Twain and (in his final days) Jean-Paul Sartre. I realize that the last name will shock many readers. I\u2019ll say more about Sartre anon.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a great admirer of Einstein (who isn\u2019t?) and a fan of Mark Twain, whose\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/imgres?imgurl=http:\/\/thelobby.com\/Mark%2520Twain%2520House.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http:\/\/thelobby.com\/2009\/10\/visit_mark_twains_historic_har.php&amp;usg=__t4Y_7jra3ejZXFrTd05CVlOdvNA=&amp;h=1536&amp;w=2048&amp;sz=969&amp;hl=en&amp;start=0&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=vSQ6K6feC3oqqM:&amp;tbnh=149&amp;tbnw=202&amp;ei=C_IITtOTO_D3mAW-rrDcDQ&amp;prev=\/search%3Fq%3Dmark%2Btwain%2Bhouse%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26authuser%3D0%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D653%26tbm%3Disch&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=140&amp;vpy=129&amp;dur=2298&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=144&amp;ty=79&amp;page=1&amp;ndsp=12&amp;ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&amp;biw=1024&amp;bih=653\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">house<\/a>I visited in December 1994. And I thoroughly enjoyed reading Sartre\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dirty_Hands\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Les Mains Sales<\/a> (Dirty Hands) in high school. When he wrote that play in 1948, Sartre was a militant atheist, but as we\u2019ll see, Sartre\u2019s views changed in his final years. These three authors I treasure, so I say to the atheists: you can\u2019t have them!<\/p>\n<p>There are\u00a0<strong>three more people<\/strong> on Ungodly News\u2019 periodic table who, in the interests of historical accuracy, I have to say don\u2019t belong there either: Charles Darwin, Thomas Henry Huxley and Bill Gates. All three are (or were)\u00a0<em>agnostics<\/em>, not atheists, and as I\u2019ll argue below, while these thinkers all reject the claims of revealed religion, none of them deserves to be called an anti-theist. It is an undeniable historical fact, however, that the ideas disseminated by Darwin and Huxley have caused many people to lose their faith in God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At Uncommon Descent the author (VJTorley) contends that the Atheists have been claiming as members of their tribe some who don\u2019t belong in the tribe. In other words, some criticize religion (Twain) while others are seemingly indifferent (Einstein), and others make some strong existential comments (Satre), but that doesn\u2019t make them out and out atheists. 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