{"id":1871,"date":"2006-11-03T02:30:03","date_gmt":"2006-11-03T07:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/"},"modified":"2006-11-03T02:30:03","modified_gmt":"2006-11-03T07:30:03","slug":"friday-is-for-friends-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/","title":{"rendered":"Friday is for Friends"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Wendell Berry, in <em>Citizenship Papers<\/em> \u2014 a volume that is not afraid to disagree with government, has a chp called \u201cThe Failure of War.\u201d Here is his essential point: \u201cMilitarization in defense of freedom reduces the freedom of the defenders.\u201d <!--more|inline--><br>\nI hope you can read this whole post to consider the questions at the bottom; I think they are good ones. I hope you agree and want to converse about it.<br>\nNow I\u2019m not sure this is much of a claim, but I don\u2019t want to deal with that part of his chp in this post. But, let me say this: whatever one thinks of war (just way, etc), and I\u2019ve made it clear that I think the pacifist is the most consistent Christian position, apart from some other theoretical basis, Berry\u2019s observation doesn\u2019t hold water. Those who believe that a government has the right to call its citizens into the military, also believe that war may involve restriction of freedoms. Individuals \u201ccede\u201d (that\u2019s a legal word) rights to the State\/Feds in such cases.<br>\nWhat I\u2019m more concerned with today is that Berry finds a brutal hypocrisy with abortion. Listen to this claim by Wendell Berry:<br>\n<em>If you so devalue human life that the accidentally conceived unborn may be permissibly killed [abortion], how do you keep that permission from being assumed by someone who has made the same judgment against the born?<\/em><br>\n<em>Abortion-as-birth-control<\/em>, he says, <em>is justified as a \u201cright,\u201d which can establish itself only by denying all the rights of another person [the baby], which is the most primitive intent of warfare.\u00c2 <\/em><br>\n<em>If the creature in a womb is a living human being, and so far also an innocent one, then it is wrong to treat it as an enemy<\/em>.<br>\n<em>As for the \u201cright to control one\u2019s own body,\u201d I am all for that. But implicit in that right is the responsibility to control one\u2019s body in such a way as to avoid dealing irresponsibly or violently or murderously with other bodies. Women and men generally have understood that when they have conceived a child they have relinquished a significant measure of their independence, and that henceforth they must control their bodies in the interest of the child<\/em>.<br>\nHere\u2019s the question: <strong>Is it a moral hypocrisy to believe in war and against abortion, or to be against war and for abortion?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wendell Berry, in Citizenship Papers \u2014 a volume that is not afraid to disagree with government, has a chp called \u201cThe Failure of War.\u201d Here is his essential point: \u201cMilitarization in defense of freedom reduces the freedom of the defenders.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[476],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1871","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Friday is for Friends<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Wendell Berry, in Citizenship Papers -- a volume that is not afraid to disagree with government, has a chp called &quot;The Failure of War.&quot; Here is his\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Friday is for Friends\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Wendell Berry, in Citizenship Papers -- a volume that is not afraid to disagree with government, has a chp called &quot;The Failure of War.&quot; Here is his\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2006-11-03T07:30:03+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/\",\"name\":\"Friday is for Friends\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2006-11-03T07:30:03+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2006-11-03T07:30:03+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\"},\"description\":\"Wendell Berry, in Citizenship Papers -- a volume that is not afraid to disagree with government, has a chp called \\\"The Failure of War.\\\" Here is his\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2006\/11\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-15\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Friday is for Friends\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\",\"name\":\"Jesus Creed\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight on Jesus and orthodox faith in the 21st century\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\",\"name\":\"Scot McKnight\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight is a recognized authority on the New Testament, early Christianity, and the historical Jesus. 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