{"id":21555,"date":"2011-10-26T05:20:39","date_gmt":"2011-10-26T10:20:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/?p=21555"},"modified":"2011-10-22T06:07:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-22T11:07:00","slug":"with-god-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2011\/10\/26\/with-god-1\/","title":{"rendered":"With God 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Skye Jethani is one of those younger Christian voices who, like Eugene Peterson, has an eye out for consumerist takeovers of the church; he also has drunk deeply from the depths of the spiritual formation masters; and he\u2019s always had a stubborn Bible-first approach to pastoral theology.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2011\/10\/Screen-shot-2011-10-19-at-8.27.20-AM.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-21556\" title=\"Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 8.27.20 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2011\/10\/Screen-shot-2011-10-19-at-8.27.20-AM-300x236.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"236\"><\/a>Yet one more dimension of Skye\u2019s thinking: he has an eye for how the Christian life is framed in modern culture so that he sees its faults. In his newest book, <strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1595553797\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=faithinirelan-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=1595553797\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">With: Reimagining the Way You Relate to God<\/a><\/em><\/strong>, Skye zeroes in on how various prepositions express an inadequate spirituality and how one preposition gets us to the heart of what it\u2019s all about. This is one of those books that is not easy to blog about because it\u2019s more to be experienced through reading than summarizing ideas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Examine Skye\u2019s prepositions below, knowing they are not totally false but instead capable of distorting how we are to live, and reflect for us on how these prepositions deserve more attention today. Where are you seeing \u201cfrom\u201d and \u201cover\u201d and \u201cfor\u201d and \u201cunder\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Skye\u2019s book reminds me of a classic from my era: JB Phillips\u2019 <em>Your God is Too Small<\/em>, wherein he explained bad ideas of God to set them up for good ideas about God. In this book Skye sets up some bad ideas about how we are to live so he can explain a life with God.<\/p>\n<p>But the central idea can be expressed very clearly, in that too many Christians see the Christian life as:<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Life \u201cfrom\u201d God: we want God to pour out his blessings on us or we treat God as the source of blessings.<br>\nLife \u201cover\u201d God: we figure out how things work, we control, we manage, we develop a life-over-God posture.<br>\nLife \u201cfor\u201d God: we drive ourselves to serve God and see our lives as something for God. We seek to accomplish great things for God.<br>\nLife \u201cunder\u201d God: we do things \u201cby the Book.\u201d If we follow the Bible, God blesses; we see ourselves primarily as the obedient ones; we seek to stay under the guidelines.<\/p>\n<p>Skye\u2019s proposal is that we are to have a Life WITH God. (More on that in our next post.)<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Skye Jethani is one of those younger Christian voices who, like Eugene Peterson, has an eye out for consumerist takeovers of the church; he also has drunk deeply from the depths of the spiritual formation masters; and he\u2019s always had a stubborn Bible-first approach to pastoral theology. 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