{"id":25369,"date":"2012-02-16T00:03:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-16T06:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?p=25369"},"modified":"2012-02-13T05:50:22","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T11:50:22","slug":"christian-judgment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2012\/02\/16\/christian-judgment\/","title":{"rendered":"Christian Judgment"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/40\/2012\/02\/Screen-shot-2012-02-12-at-8.57.58-PM.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-25370\" title=\"Screen shot 2012-02-12 at 8.57.58 PM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/40\/2012\/02\/Screen-shot-2012-02-12-at-8.57.58-PM-300x173.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\"><\/a><strong>Was Jesus inclusive and Paul exclusive? Does Jesus\u2019 practice of welcoming sinners to table stand in bold contrast to Paul\u2019s practice? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Daniel Kirk contends in his book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/080103910X\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=musionscieand-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=080103910X\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul?<\/em><\/a>, that the theme of judgment, even exclusion, won\u2019t go away even if we wish it away. He sketches Jesus before he gets to Paul, and he develops an interesting idea:<\/p>\n<p>Namely, that Jesus invited an intimate family business kind of judgment, a \u201cdangerous business of loving, self-critical judgment,\u201d but that such a posture toward non-family folk was not right. He works through Matthew 7:1\u2019s famous \u201cdo not judge\u201d passage, ending up with 7:6, the famous dogs and swine passage, as the indicator they were not to judge outsiders. (This one wasn\u2019t as clear to me as he wanted it to be, but I get his gist.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you see justification as an \u201cecumenical\u201d doctrine?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But with Jesus final judgment is rooted in whether or not a person is a follower of Jesus, so that Jesus was the decisive factor in participating in God\u2019s family. Kirk also contends that Jesus was not a universalist but that his embrace of others was universal: that is, the family of God was beginning to extend beyond normal boundaries. Surprises are at hand: insiders will be out and outsiders will be in.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Here he enters into Paul\u2019s theology. Jesus is the universal Lord, that means Gentiles can be included, and that means the issue of how they are included: the one thing that is clear to Paul is that Gentiles don\u2019t have to become Jews, they don\u2019t have to go under the blade. They are welcomed by faith.<\/p>\n<p>Which means justification now gets its meaning and clarity. It is Paul\u2019s (he\u2019s using NT Wright) \u201cecumenical doctrine.\u201d Justification \u201cis God\u2019s own judgment that a person is rightly related to God, a member of God\u2019s covenant people, God\u2019s family.\u201d Which means life flows from that: \u201cthe basis on which God justifies \u2026 is the same measure that God\u2019s people should apply in judging others to be part of our Christian family\u201d (106).<\/p>\n<p>Justification, which ironically is the source of division in the church, was the source of unity in Paul\u2019s theology! Oneness in the church is the essence of justification; Gal 3:28 is a justification theme.<\/p>\n<p>Again with Paul, as we see in 1 Cor 5, judgment is part of how the family operates \u2014 with those in the family.<\/p>\n<p>Paul\u2019s inclusiveness in his doctrine of justification justifies \u2014 or establishes \u2014 diversity in the church, acceptance of dimensions that stress traditions, and challenges patterns of exclusion. It means embodying the gospel in each culture, in that culture\u2019s way.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Was Jesus inclusive and Paul exclusive? Does Jesus\u2019 practice of welcoming sinners to table stand in bold contrast to Paul\u2019s practice? Daniel Kirk contends in his book, Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul?, that the theme of judgment, even exclusion, won\u2019t go away even if we wish it away. 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