{"id":3100,"date":"2007-08-03T00:30:30","date_gmt":"2007-08-03T05:30:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/"},"modified":"2007-08-03T00:30:30","modified_gmt":"2007-08-03T05:30:30","slug":"friday-is-for-friends-51","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/","title":{"rendered":"Friday is for Friends"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>The 8th chp of Jonathan Wilson\u2019s study, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.abunga.com\/details\/?ean=9781587430374&amp;affkey=826D777A-128C-465B-8B07-B193508149DB\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why Church Matters<\/a><\/em>, has to do with baptism, eucharist and footwashing, and in today\u2019s post I will take issue in a way that I hope will generate a good conversation. <!--more|inline--><br>\nWilson contends that baptism initiates a life of discipleship, that it makes sense only in light of the kingdom (death to the old life and resurrection to the new life), that the community needs to play a far greater role in the significance of baptism, and that baptism should become more central to the community of faith \u2014 in space and calendar and teaching. Namely, is the one being baptized entering into a community that understands itself as a community of discipleship.<br>\nNow here me out: Many, like Jon Wilson, are attempting to get the church to resurrect baptism and to revive it and many have been asking themselves for years why we work so hard at trying to revive it and make very little progress. Jesus had little to do with baptism; Paul\u2019s comments in 1 Cor 1:17 (\u201cFor Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel\u2013not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power\u201d) make many think that baptism wasn\u2019t that central to his theology; and we don\u2019t see it that much in the New Testament. Now, no one wants to wipe it off the map, but many who argue for the centrality of baptism are using language to construct a theology of the gospel that is shaped by baptism language. In other words, it is a language game and not an exegetical game. Thus, to say that discipleship is a life of baptism is a nice, thick, theological expression \u2014 but it is language and not the way the NT talks about discipleship.<br>\nNo one disputes that baptism occurs in some major passages \u2014 Romans 6; 1 Pet 3 \u2014 but how central was it?<br>\nNow here me out on another point: try as hard as we can, baptism just doesn\u2019t mean all that much to most people today. And I\u2019m talking mostly about those who are baptized upon profession of faith as adults \u2014 I rarely hear them express their faith in baptismal categories.<br>\nNow here me out: I\u2019m not sure what I agree with in the above comments so have at it!<br>\nOn Eucharist: it is the sustaining practice of the Church by providing communion with the provision of new life. Wilson brings up good themes: reconciliation, living remembrance, communal meal, God\u2019s hospitality, and the concrete value of participating in preparing for the Lord\u2019s supper.<br>\nOn footwashing: Wilson grew up in a footwashing community and contends that it was central to the early church \u2014 and indeed it was since it was a central task in hospitality customs. He urges to renew its practice.<br>\nBy the way, in footwashing we raise the issue of the redemptive movement hermeneutic \u2014 of adjusting culturally to a new day. Is this the way to address footwashing or do we need to return to this custom?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The 8th chp of Jonathan Wilson\u2019s study, Why Church Matters, has to do with baptism, eucharist and footwashing, and in today\u2019s post I will take issue in a way that I hope will generate a good conversation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[476,337],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3100","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books","category-theology"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Friday is for Friends<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The 8th chp of Jonathan Wilson&#039;s study, Why Church Matters, has to do with baptism, eucharist and footwashing, and in today&#039;s post I will take issue in a\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Friday is for Friends\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The 8th chp of Jonathan Wilson&#039;s study, Why Church Matters, has to do with baptism, eucharist and footwashing, and in today&#039;s post I will take issue in a\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2007-08-03T05:30:30+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/\",\"name\":\"Friday is for Friends\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2007-08-03T05:30:30+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2007-08-03T05:30:30+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\"},\"description\":\"The 8th chp of Jonathan Wilson's study, Why Church Matters, has to do with baptism, eucharist and footwashing, and in today's post I will take issue in a\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2007\/08\/03\/friday-is-for-friends-51\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Friday is for Friends\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\",\"name\":\"Jesus Creed\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight on Jesus and orthodox faith in the 21st century\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\",\"name\":\"Scot McKnight\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight is a recognized authority on the New Testament, early Christianity, and the historical Jesus. 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