{"id":327,"date":"2005-05-18T19:35:00","date_gmt":"2005-05-19T00:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2005\/05\/18\/dark-thoughts\/"},"modified":"2005-05-18T19:35:00","modified_gmt":"2005-05-19T00:35:00","slug":"dark-thoughts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2005\/05\/18\/dark-thoughts\/","title":{"rendered":"Dark Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p>Kevin Corcoran, from Calvin, writes in <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Books and Culture<\/span> on a topic that many of my students have recently asked me about: hell. The questions came up well before McLaren\u2019s book, which I\u2019ll be working my way through shortly.<\/p>\n<p>Corcoran is asking a question that needs to be asked at some serious levels, both lay and professional. It is this: Can Protestants, and this defined in the rather traditional way, affirm some kind of sense of Purgatory or a post-mortem second chance or some kind of \u201cin hell but not endlessly\u201d? Recently, I predicted to a student that in twenty years you will see a gradual acceptance of purgatory among Evangelicals \u2014 and I say this not as a prophet but as one who has been \u201creading the signs\u201d and \u201csniffing the winds\u201d since the early 80s on this topic. Corcoran is a sign that this question will surface again and again; I just pray that Evangelical theologians will be level-headed enough to ask the hard questions, look to the Scriptures for what it does say and what it does not say, and ponder their answers in dialogue with the fathers and all those who have studied the matter seriously.<\/p>\n<p>It will not be a surprise to some that John Stott affirmed a view called \u201cannihilationism\u201d because he could not bear the thought of humans suffering eternally for finite sins. He brought this forward in his dialogue with David Edwards, published in <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Evangelical Essentials<\/span>. The logic he uses must be considered, and it should be observed that many English Evangelicals over the years have affirmed annihilationism \u2014 that sinners will not suffer eternally but will be extinguished from reality. A thought too unbearable to think about more than a second.<\/p>\n<p>Corcoran speaks of two sorts: separationists and universalists. The latter is clear: they believe that all, in some sense, will spend eternity in blessedness. The former believe that humans and God will be separated. But will it be an eternal separation?, he wants us to ask.<\/p>\n<p>The separationists, so Corcoran suggests, can comprise both those who believe in eternal separation and temporary separation. In fact, Corcoran seems to be suggesting that we consider a <span style=\"font-style: italic\">via media <\/span>in which those once separated are eventually united with God. He seems to label these Christocentric universalists or second chance separationists \u2014 that all need to be and may indeed be reconciled through Christ. He suggests, also, that second chance separationists could suggest as well that some would refuse their second chance.<\/p>\n<p>This latter group somehow turns hell into a purgatorial temporary existence out of which some (or all) emerge into the presence of God.<\/p>\n<p>Corcoran comes to what I can only call the present position of many: he <span style=\"font-style: italic\">hopes<\/span> for some kind of universalism but he does not <span style=\"font-style: italic\">believe in<\/span> universalism.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks, Kevin, for your heart and for asking us to ask this question \u2014 which many are now asking because of McLaren\u2019s new book.<\/p>\n<p>Long ago I studied this question somewhat and came to the conclusion that it would not be \u201cjust\u201d of God to punish eternally human beings whose sins, however great and belligerent, were finite \u2014 finite beings cannot sin infinitely so eternal punishment for finite sin seems incommensurate. (Like a life-time sentence for stealing a cookie.) When I asked a colleague of mine, whose name shall go unmentioned here, what he thought about this conclusion of mine, he said something that I shall never forget: \u201cIt is just <span style=\"font-style: italic\">only<\/span> and <span style=\"font-style: italic\">only if<\/span> such humans continue in their unrepentant state.\u201d Corcoran would ask him this, \u201cWhat if they didn\u2019t? What then? Would their state become temporary separationism?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t even like this topic, but I am bound as a Christian to listen to the words of Jesus and the Bible. Listening I am.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom: 0.25em\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kevin Corcoran, from Calvin, writes in Books and Culture on a topic that many of my students have recently asked me about: hell. 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