{"id":3936,"date":"2008-02-25T00:20:51","date_gmt":"2008-02-25T05:20:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2008\/02\/25\/friends-and-faith\/"},"modified":"2008-02-25T00:20:51","modified_gmt":"2008-02-25T05:20:51","slug":"friends-and-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/02\/25\/friends-and-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"Friends and Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Kris and I were in Fort Myers and Naples FL this weekend. We flew down early Friday and spent the day and next morning with our good friends, Jim and Bonnie Panther. The last time we visited them Jim and I played golf (I still remember my shots that day), but our time was more compressed this time and I think Jim missed golfing with all of his buddies Saturday morning.<!--more|inline--><br>\nI don\u2019t know if all communities in Florida are like this one, but Jim and Bonnie must know nearly every one who lives there. Everywhere we went they were waving at friends. We get to talking about what we will do when we retire when we visit with them, and I must confess that professors and writers may retire from teaching but that would give me more time to do what I already love to do \u2014 write. I love to play golf but don\u2019t know how often I\u2019d want to play \u2026 once a week would probably be plenty.<br>\nI found an image, and I want to use it with you and it is this: we saw some chameleons. Being a chameleon, when transferred to humans, is nearly always a critical remark. I wish to see if you think it can be redeemed \u2014 and redeemed in this way: Can it be used for how the church and ministry need to adapt to each environment?<br>\nHere\u2019s what we saw: the church where I did some teaching this weekend has adapted, rather dynamically and intentionally, to a \u201cretired world.\u201d Greg Smith (see below) explained some things to me, and others did too, and before long I began to see how things work \u2026 ministry in such a community means adaptation \u2014 just like those little chameleons all over the place.<br>\nIt was a real challenge to me to see their adaptations to seniors. I wondered how many churches have adapted to their community the way 1st Presbyterian Naples has. Not many, I suspect.<br>\nNow some details: Saturday afternoon we drove down to Naples where I spoke at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fpcnaples.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">First Presbyterian Naples<\/a>. We were invited by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fpcnaples.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Greg Smith<\/a>, whom we got to know when he was serving a Lutheran church in Dallas. I did some Jesus Creed stuff and then got to share for five minutes in the Sunday morning services \u2026 and we loved the formal service.<br>\nNow for this: Robert Bohl, formerly a pastor of a very large Presbyterian Church in Kansas City, retired to Naples area and the pulpit opened at 1st Pres and the next thing he was not only filling the pulpit but the interim. Kris and I think his sermon yesterday morning, \u201cWhat is Christian Love?,\u201d was one of the best sermons we\u2019ve heard in decades. Eloquent, laced with exceptional illustrations, and solid in theology. And he is a preacher\u2019s preacher.<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bspconline.org\/Staff\/Staff.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tim Stewart<\/a>, a former classmate of mine when I was a student at TEDS, found his way to our teaching time on Saturday \u2026 he looked vaguely familiar and then we discovered we were old classmates \u2026 and he was shocked when I remembered where he sat in Murray Harris\u2019 class. What a delight to see Tim. He\u2019s now pastor up the road at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bspconline.org\/who_we_are\/who.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Burnt Store Presbyterian<\/a>.<br>\nKris and I always come away growing in our appreciation for the church.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kris and I were in Fort Myers and Naples FL this weekend. We flew down early Friday and spent the day and next morning with our good friends, Jim and Bonnie Panther. 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