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The \u201ctrue remedy\u201d of James Madison, the one that sought for an amiable relationship between religion and government, has recently been nearly demolished. That problem Os Guinness, in The Case for Civility<\/a>\"\"<\/em>, calls \u201cthe broken settlement.\u201d A fascinating chp, one that again walks hand in hand at times with our own theological wars.
\nThree factors now create a hefty challenge to us when it comes to relating religion and government in a civil manner:
\n1. Exploding pluralism: across the map, USA and the world is not what it once was and the USA itself has seen dramatic shifts. Liberals, Guinness contends, speak too \u201cairily\u201d and conservatives confused pluralism with relativism.
\n2. Expanding statism: \u201cthe enormous expansion of the state in relation to the church\u201d (68).
\n3. Emerging separationism. Here Guinness expounds Jefferson\u2019s wall as one of accommodation and nuanced and carefully balanced; today\u2019s public outcry is neither nuanced nor balanced and therefore there is little accommodation. Instead, the wall has been raised and thickened. This development is dramatic and it has consequences for religious liberty.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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