{"id":4330,"date":"2008-06-05T00:10:42","date_gmt":"2008-06-05T05:10:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/"},"modified":"2008-06-05T00:10:42","modified_gmt":"2008-06-05T05:10:42","slug":"wrath-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/","title":{"rendered":"Wrath 12"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Yesterday I suggested the wrath of Romans 12:19 (\u201cbut leave room for the wrath of God \u2026 vengeance\u2026\u201d) was historical wrath, and here\u2019s why \u2014 from Romans 13: <!--more|inline--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval;  4 for it is God\u2019s servant for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority does not bear the sword in vain! It is the servant of God to execute <strong>wrath<\/strong> on the wrongdoer.  5 Therefore one must be subject, not only because of <strong>wrath<\/strong> but also because of conscience. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>1. Rulers have the power to exercise \u201cterror\u201d (v. 3) and create \u201cfear\u201d (v. 3) and to give \u201capproval\u201d (v. 3).<br>\n2. Rulers are, in some sense, God\u2019s servants (v. 4) and they are designed to do good.<br>\n3. If you do wrong, you will be afraid (v. 4). They have the sword = judgment, even capital sentence at that time.<br>\n4. This all is connected: God\u2019s designs \u2026 rulers \u2026 sword \u2026 to wrath. How so? Wrath is seen here as the historical judgment, negative no doubt, of historical rulers in the historical world.<br>\n5. So, be a good citizen \u2026 not just to avoid wrath but out of conscience.<br>\nIs this how you would sum up what Paul says here?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I suggested the wrath of Romans 12:19 (\u201cbut leave room for the wrath of God \u2026 vengeance\u2026\u201d) was historical wrath, and here\u2019s why \u2014 from Romans 13:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[337],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4330","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-theology"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Wrath 12<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Yesterday I suggested the wrath of Romans 12:19 (&quot;but leave room for the wrath of God ... vengeance...&quot;) was historical wrath, and here&#039;s why -- from\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Wrath 12\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Yesterday I suggested the wrath of Romans 12:19 (&quot;but leave room for the wrath of God ... vengeance...&quot;) was historical wrath, and here&#039;s why -- from\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2008-06-05T05:10:42+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/\",\"name\":\"Wrath 12\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2008-06-05T05:10:42+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2008-06-05T05:10:42+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\"},\"description\":\"Yesterday I suggested the wrath of Romans 12:19 (\\\"but leave room for the wrath of God ... vengeance...\\\") was historical wrath, and here's why -- from\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/05\/wrath-12\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Wrath 12\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\",\"name\":\"Jesus Creed\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight on Jesus and orthodox faith in the 21st century\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\",\"name\":\"Scot McKnight\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight is a recognized authority on the New Testament, early Christianity, and the historical Jesus. 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