{"id":484,"date":"2005-08-13T06:31:00","date_gmt":"2005-08-13T11:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2005\/08\/13\/generous-evangelical-orthodoxy-catholic\/"},"modified":"2005-08-13T06:31:00","modified_gmt":"2005-08-13T11:31:00","slug":"generous-evangelical-orthodoxy-catholic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2005\/08\/13\/generous-evangelical-orthodoxy-catholic\/","title":{"rendered":"Generous (evangelical) orthodoxy: catholic"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p>When I was in seminary, one of my teachers was asked \u201cWhat kind of evangelical are you?\u201d and he said, \u201cI am a C.S. Lewis kind of evangelical?\u201d To which he was asked yet another, \u201cWhat kind is that?\u201d and he said, \u201cA catholic evangelical.\u201d Not as in Roman Catholic, for that body is much like many others \u2014 affirming that is right and everyone else is a little or a lot off base.<\/p>\n<p>Since the day my professor said that, I have worked with that vision. I, too, believe that we all ought to be catholic Christians in that we accept everyone who is a Christian. I like the idea of a C.S. Lewis sense of the holy catholic Church.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Orthodoxy<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The first fact is that we don\u2019t know who is Christian and the second fact is that God won\u2019t ask us to make the decision. Christians are those who embrace the gospel of Jesus Christ, and anyone who embraces that gospel is a Christian.<\/p>\n<p>Christians don\u2019t deny central truths of the gospel and they affirm the orthodox beliefs about that gospel. But genuine faith is a matter of one\u2019s embrace, of one\u2019s vulnerability, and of one\u2019s trust in God \u2014 whom we confess is Father, Son, and Spirit.<\/p>\n<p>We know that Christians differ across the globe, across the centuries, and across the doctrines. But we also know that Christians should agree on the basics, and our orthodoxy encourages us to focus on the basics. The gospel basics, which is the central theme of a book of mine coming out in September, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/1557254532\/qid=1123642221\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/002-4128031-0199240?v=glance&amp;s=books\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Embracing Grace<\/span><\/a>, is that God is at work to restore us (cracked <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Eikons<\/span>) in Christ so we can be in union with God and communion with others for the good of others and the world.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Generosity<\/span><\/p>\n<p>At no place is our commitment to generosity more important than here: while we embrace the gospel itself as our core, we are generous on the matters that are not at the core. The saying goes back to Augustine, I believe:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>We know the difference between the Second Coming and its time; we know the difference between the forgiveness of sins and one\u2019s theory of the atonement; we know the difference between the Body of Christ and local denominational differences.<\/p>\n<p>But, in this knowledge we have to work to be more than tolerant: we need to <span style=\"font-style: italic\">appreciate<\/span> the differences. Anyone can look around and find the central features of major church bodies and find something good and valuable and many times find things that we cannot appropriate in our local church so we will need to appreciate it from afar: I love the Eastern Orthodox theology of icons, the Roman Catholic system of monastery life, the Anglican <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Book of Common Prayer<\/span>, the Methodist heritage in John Wesley, the Anabaptist commitment to simple life, the Evangelical commitment to personal Bible study, and I could go on \u2026 but you get my point. You can\u2019t usually have all these things, so we say, \u201cAppreciate them from afar, and confess that we need these other expressions, too.\u201d \u201cWhy,\u201d we ask, \u201cshould one church have all the good things?\u201d It can\u2019t, so we need one another.<\/p>\n<p>If this is the case with you, and you share my thoughts here, we have some repenting to do of our <span style=\"font-style: italic\">sectarianism<\/span>. Sectarianism believes and teaches that one church, my church, got it all right and therefore every body else got something wrong. It therefore condemns and condescends. From this we need to repent. We may be justifiably proud of our local church, but it is part and parcel of one catholic Body across the world and centuries and doctrines, and we are but a part.<\/p>\n<p>God, I\u2019m sure both laughs and weeps at our silly belief that finally, in our day, we\u2019ve finally got it right. Forget it, God is the one who is Right, and we simply need to embrace the redemptive work of God, and when we see it as God\u2019s work and not ours, we can become as we were meant to be: a holy, loving, catholic Church that is designed to bring glory to God and redemption to others.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom: 0.25em\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I was in seminary, one of my teachers was asked \u201cWhat kind of evangelical are you?\u201d and he said, \u201cI am a C.S. 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