{"id":5359,"date":"2009-03-17T06:00:21","date_gmt":"2009-03-17T11:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/"},"modified":"2009-03-17T06:00:21","modified_gmt":"2009-03-17T11:00:21","slug":"youth-ministry-3-0","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/","title":{"rendered":"Youth Ministry 3.0"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Marko.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/Marko.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" height=\"301\" width=\"295\"><\/span>I sat down the other day with a youth pastor and asked a direct question that I\u2019ve asked a number of youth leaders: \u201cWhat percentage of your youth become adult, mature Christians?\u201d <\/p>\n<p>His response: \u201cYou want the truth?\u201d <\/p>\n<p>I said, \u201cOf course.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>His answer: \u201cAbout 25%.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We both sat there, fumbling our coffee cups, looking at one another, nothing said and nothing to be said. In grief and wonder we searched for what we might do together to change the course of the church. His numbers are about average for evangelical churches. I wonder if some youth pastors would sit down, think for 15 minutes or so over the last few years and what has become of their youth. What \u201cworked\u201d and what \u201cdidn\u2019t work\u201d? Listen to these ruggedly honest words from Mark Oestreicher:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br>\n<br>\u201cThe way we\u2019re doing things is <i>already not working.<\/i> We\u2019re failing at our calling. And deep down, most of us know it. This is why we need an epochal shift in our assumptions, approaches, models, and methods.\u201d This is from Marko\u2019s new book: <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0310668662?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310668662\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Youth Ministry 3.0: A Manifesto of Where We\u2019ve Been, Where We Are &amp; Where We Need to Go<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0310668662\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: medium none  ! important;margin: 0px ! important\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"><br>\n<\/strong><\/em>. We want this blog to participate in that \u201cepochal shift\u201d and so we need to take a good hard look at this book.<\/p>\n<p>Marko\u2019s second chp sets up some important terms, and they overlap with our series on iGens. Three features of youth happen during adolescence:<\/p>\n<p>1. Identity (formation): Who am I?<br>2. Autonomy: How am I unique and different?<br>3. Affinity: Where do I belong and to whom?<\/p>\n<p>Marko\u2019s proposal: the priorities of these three have shifted. From WW2 through the 60s, the focus was on identity. From the 70s through the 90s, the focus was on autonomy. The newest generation, however, is not as much about identity and autonomy as about affinity.<\/p>\n<p>Youth ministry, Marko contends, has failed to adjust to the shift of emphasis on affinity.<\/p>\n<p><b>Marko (and others), here\u2019s a question for you: Would you say that I, as a professor, would have felt 30 years ago that my students were not yet adults but today I might sense that I\u2019m not in their world? Has there been a shift from youth growing into the adult world to a culture much more shaped by their culture?<\/b><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I sat down the other day with a youth pastor and asked a direct question that I\u2019ve asked a number of youth leaders: \u201cWhat percentage of your youth become adult, mature Christians?\u201d His response: \u201cYou want the truth?\u201d I said, \u201cOf course.\u201d His answer: \u201cAbout 25%.\u201d We both sat there, fumbling our coffee cups, looking [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[540],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5359","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-youth-ministry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Youth Ministry 3.0<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I sat down the other day with a youth pastor and asked a direct question that I&#039;ve asked a number of youth leaders: &quot;What percentage of your youth become\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Youth Ministry 3.0\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I sat down the other day with a youth pastor and asked a direct question that I&#039;ve asked a number of youth leaders: &quot;What percentage of your youth become\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2009-03-17T11:00:21+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/Marko.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Scot McKnight\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/\",\"name\":\"Youth Ministry 3.0\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2009-03-17T11:00:21+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2009-03-17T11:00:21+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\"},\"description\":\"I sat down the other day with a youth pastor and asked a direct question that I've asked a number of youth leaders: \\\"What percentage of your youth become\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/17\/youth-ministry-3-0\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Youth Ministry 3.0\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/\",\"name\":\"Jesus Creed\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight on Jesus and orthodox faith in the 21st century\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/#\/schema\/person\/5919e847c58ffe6efb5899fb61797252\",\"name\":\"Scot McKnight\",\"description\":\"Scot McKnight is a recognized authority on the New Testament, early Christianity, and the historical Jesus. 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